Metric Targets - gone?

Canuck44 said:
IPSC started in the US, not sure how it could happen but maybe control of the sport ought to move back to the US. I suspect their are more shooters shooting USPSA then there are IPSC shooters world wide.
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I believe that there are only around 20000 active IPSC shooters (or USPSA shooters if you prefer) in the United States. There are almost that many IPSC shooters in the Phillipines alone (according to my sources there. Personally, I think the number must be lower.). Heck, there are over 1000 active members of IPSC in Canada alone.

IPSC is an immensely popular sport worldwide.
 
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metric or standard ??
 
hungrybeagle - 1800 in Canada +or- according to our newsletter. I doubt there are anywhere near that in the Phillipines but who knows.

Westicle - Wes you got way to much time on your hands:D

Take Care

Bob
 
Canuck44 said:
I doubt there are anywhere near that in the Phillipines but who knows.
Bob
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IPSC is almost a national sport there. It's just huge. Matches are supported and indeed often named after government officials, and even taxi drivers know who Jethro Dionisio is. I think they had at least 11 or 12 level III's the year I was over there working (`97) and they were all over booked. If that's any indication...
 
You will be glad to know that the elimination of the Metric Target is described as a BOLD AND PRO-ACTIVE step!


[quote name='Vince Pinto' date='7 Nov 2008, 11:51 am' post='80036']
. IPSC has taken a bold, pro-active step by removing an easy source of criticism -- the Metric Target -- which, in any case, is rarely used these days outside of North America.[/quote]


This is just disgusting!
 
relliott

From what you say I certainly stand corrected. I shouldn't be surprised though, I know I have a couple of friends over there who own 1911 NOrincos and they certainly are gun crazy. IPSC would be a natural sport for them.

Take care

Bob
 
stormbringer said:
You will be glad to know that the elimination of the Metric Target is described as a BOLD AND PRO-ACTIVE step!


[quote name='Vince Pinto' date='7 Nov 2008, 11:51 am' post='80036']
. IPSC has taken a bold, pro-active step by removing an easy source of criticism -- the Metric Target -- which, in any case, is rarely used these days outside of North America.
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This is just disgusting![/QUOTE]


So is IPSC now basically going anti gun and PC?:confused:
 
stormbringer said:
So is IPSC now basically going anti gun and PC?:confused:
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Disgusting..........most certainly.

However to call IPSC anti gun is going a bit too far and you know that yourself.


What it is however is SPINELESS![/QUOTE]

yeah I havent shot any matches this year, so I guess the metric will be gone and I wont see it again.
 
USPSA is just the US IPSC region is it not? As I can’t see USPSA switching targets and Canada voted against a ban on the metric target have we filed for a rule exemption like we have for bullet weight and magazine length ?
 
Some of the US matches DO throw the classic target into their stages because they are more challenging.

As for an exemption to use the classic target, why do we need one? You want to simulate an upper panel only shot? Take a regular classic target, paint it black and put a 2/3 target just slightly above it. Or better yet, put a classic target painted black in place, and put an IPSC round plate above it.

Personally, the metric target allows people to compensate for poor accuracy. The metric target has a bigger A zone and larger scoring area. As well, I can't think of the number of times I've seen someone aiming at the lower A zone, and drift rounds into the upper panel.

Am I sad to see the Metric Target go? Sure, but it's just a target. We could be shooting at tombstone targets and it wouldn't change how we approach the game. Does it take away some options for stage design? Sure, but to be honest, as a match director, I've never used the metric target in a match (except when there was no classic target).

If someone could give some GOOD reasons why the metric target NEEDED to stay, then I'd be happy to hear them, but I would wager that most of the reasons are really not that compelling.
 
Need Hungrybeagle??

That is a Silppery slope.

This entire issue is POLITICAL!

It is proof that the majority of regions withing IPSC do not have what it takes to ensure the continuation of our sport.

The P in IPSC should now officially be removed.

We should call it IASC. International Action Shooting Confederation.

or ISSC......International Spineless Shooting Confederation.
 
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"If someone could give some GOOD reasons why the metric target NEEDED to stay, then I'd be happy to hear them, but I would wager that most of the reasons are really not that compelling."

Stages with metric target's are just a whole lot cooler.
Why try and please the antie's, hasn't helped any so far!
 
If the US and USPSA can have there own rule book why can’t we.
Stormbringer for CANPSA president.

hungrybeagle said:
If someone could give some GOOD reasons why the metric target NEEDED to stay, then I'd be happy to hear them, but I would wager that most of the reasons are really not that compelling.
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Canada has shown that you don’t need normal capacity magazines to have good IPSC matches. Maybe IPSC should ban magazines of more then 10 rounds. That would make use PC right. This would put everyone on a even footing for world shoot and shut up the people complaining about the new round of high cap production guns. This would be good right?
 
one reason we need to be able to shoot metric targets in Canada is so that we can remain on competitive ground with the Americans for matches we shoot down there. they use them, and it would be a disadvantage to Canadian shooters who travel to matches down there, to not be able to see them occasionally in matches up here.
well it sounds good right?
that is what I'd argue in asking for an exemption from ISPC to use them here in Canada. and according to those I talked to in Bali, it would be granted with little argument.
 
Exactly Slavex.

At this point.........having been defeated by our own "friends" we have no recourse but to ask these same "friends" for an exemption.



What is the methodology used for such an item?
 
there is a more important issue here beyond IPSC, and that is the Canadian Gov.. they will see this as an excuse to try and ban their use in any shooting sport.

It's just giving them ammo to use against us later..
 
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