Milsurp Finds!!
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Thanks for sharing, great pics!
The whole subject of battlefield relics intrigues me. Here's the best link I've found on the subject:
http://www.lerenfort.fsnet.co.uk/page3.html
P.S. My grandfather told me that during the Italian and German occupation all the individual townsfolk disassembled their hunting shotguns. Stocks and forends were stuffed deep into the crevices of their barn woodpiles, actions and barrels were promptly placed in barrels of old olive-oil. At the end of hostilities, they were mated with their respective woodwork with no ill effects!
The whole subject of battlefield relics intrigues me. Here's the best link I've found on the subject:
http://www.lerenfort.fsnet.co.uk/page3.html
P.S. My grandfather told me that during the Italian and German occupation all the individual townsfolk disassembled their hunting shotguns. Stocks and forends were stuffed deep into the crevices of their barn woodpiles, actions and barrels were promptly placed in barrels of old olive-oil. At the end of hostilities, they were mated with their respective woodwork with no ill effects!
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I find it odd too, that many of the buttstocks on the rifles are broken. My friend, as we speak, is digging another site nearby, a former Soviet POW camp for German soldiers. This is a portion of the email he sent me on the road, will get more info shortly...
" there were 22pcs of different carbines - 98K, 98, Polish and others (hard to identify). Mostly 7,92Mauser, but 5pcs of 22LR too (I cannot understand it). Also 1xMP38, 1xMP40, 3xMG42, 11pcs of ammo cans, Mk39 grenades, Mk24 grenades, box (first aid can) full of 7,65 long ammo, spare barrels to MG34 and 42, one flare gun, very nice ammo pouch - from first war, totally for 12pcs of loading strips..."
I forgot to mention that these digs are taking place on private property, no graves or battlesfields were ever touched. I don't touch ordnance when I dig, I have no control over these guys. Still I thought the pics would be of some interest. I'd love to see what parts were salvageable...,,,
Thanks for looking, Gentlemen
" there were 22pcs of different carbines - 98K, 98, Polish and others (hard to identify). Mostly 7,92Mauser, but 5pcs of 22LR too (I cannot understand it). Also 1xMP38, 1xMP40, 3xMG42, 11pcs of ammo cans, Mk39 grenades, Mk24 grenades, box (first aid can) full of 7,65 long ammo, spare barrels to MG34 and 42, one flare gun, very nice ammo pouch - from first war, totally for 12pcs of loading strips..."
I forgot to mention that these digs are taking place on private property, no graves or battlesfields were ever touched. I don't touch ordnance when I dig, I have no control over these guys. Still I thought the pics would be of some interest. I'd love to see what parts were salvageable...,,,
Thanks for looking, Gentlemen
Hi Gentlemen, here is a reply from my friend to some of the questions
"Some answers: Egg grenades really had fuses not screwed in, so they are deactiveted. 24 has fuses on top (not inside the handle...).
All carbines were in wooden boxes, laying alternately butt/barrel... Those butts were broken when removing them. Everything was concentrated in very small not deep hole, including MGs...
I have no doubts it was burried by escaping german soldiers, but why so many 22LR carbines?! Maybe some guard units? I forgot to mention - most of ammo was ZB Brno production, mostly prewar! And those paper boxes with ammo in strips are Czech too, there are stickers "Ammo for Czech gun Mk.24, amazing how many milions of them Germans had!"
"Some answers: Egg grenades really had fuses not screwed in, so they are deactiveted. 24 has fuses on top (not inside the handle...).
All carbines were in wooden boxes, laying alternately butt/barrel... Those butts were broken when removing them. Everything was concentrated in very small not deep hole, including MGs...
I have no doubts it was burried by escaping german soldiers, but why so many 22LR carbines?! Maybe some guard units? I forgot to mention - most of ammo was ZB Brno production, mostly prewar! And those paper boxes with ammo in strips are Czech too, there are stickers "Ammo for Czech gun Mk.24, amazing how many milions of them Germans had!"
so were they 22LR mauser carbines??!!! Wow the jerries were probably stretched to the limit if they had to resort to plinkers! amazing what you can find. I once found, while skulking on the interweb, a guy who found an mp44 in a closed can, packed in grease, still in perfect condition. quite amazing.
