Milsurp for hunting? Whos who?!

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I've always been curious about taking my Nagant and sporterized enfield out in the deer woods in the fall! Who's doing that these days? I can't imagine it's too common.

I can't think of a downside to using some of those older rounds for hunting, other than finding non fmj rounds to use.

Anyway, first post. Trying to drum up a discussion I guess. Let me know if this is the wrong spot to post. Thanks!
 
A couple generations ago, this would have been the easy option to use milsurp or sporterised versions of milsurps (Enfields, Mausers, etc).

Given the lack of available parts, support, antiquated optics mounting solutions, anyone opting to use milsurp in lieu of other available options would probably be doing it for nostaglia which is perfectly fine too. Might as well make use of what one has, even if it isn't the 'optimal' tool of today.
 
Why not? Lots of hunters use milsurp and sporterized Enfields are common. Hunting ammo is available. Reloading ensures appropriate ammo is even more available. I used to hunt with an M1 Garand that I reloaded for.
Thats great. You know, I guess weight, could be a deal breaker for some, especially a fully stocked rifle like a nagant or an m1 grand, but my sporter Enfield is not much heavier than my modern X bolt if at all.
 
A couple generations ago, this would have been the easy option to use milsurp or sporterised versions of milsurps (Enfields, Mausers, etc).

Given the lack of available parts, support, antiquated optics mounting solutions, anyone opting to use milsurp in lieu of other available options would probably be doing it for nostaglia which is perfectly fine too. Might as well make use of what one has, even if it isn't the 'optimal' tool of today.
Agreed. The idea of harkening back to those post-war days, when it was flannels, flap caps and service rifles sounds great 👍
I knew a guy who had some Mausers that he was absolutely in love with.
 
303s were very common when I was young. They killed game very well. 1970 biggest buck I’ve shot was with a Jungle Carbine. There is no reason the mentioned gun will not work, both close to 308 energy. If you like them and they are accurate enough use them . Good luck. AJ
 
My first centerfire hunting rifle was a "sporterized" Lee Enfield No. 4 Mk1 that I bought for $14.95 from International Firearms in Montreal, 1963. It was used to hunt whitetail deer successfully. I've also hunted deer with a Polish M44 carbine that a friend gave me.
 
Loved hunting deer with a Garand. Never got one with any other milsurp but the 303 Brits sure are popular out here. Just like the rest of Canada lol.

Will probably try to get one with an SKS this fall/winter just to be able to have pictures to piss off antis.
 
Prob won't this year but occasionally I have used a open sight 303 and k31.
They kill things just as effectively as they always have.
I just limit my shots to about 300 yrds with irons.
My last whitetail buck was took with the k31 at about that 300yrd mark.
And it left a very nice exit hole.
 
Who's doing that these days?
In the past I've hunted with a Garand, M38 Swede Mauser and Parker Hale Enfield sporter. This year I will be carrying the M38 at least some of the time and maybe the Enfield sporter as well. If I get the sights sorted in time I may also try my K-31 this season as well.

For me the only drawback is the iron sights not working as well as they used to for my old eyes. I am planning on putting a scout scope on a M-48 Yugo Mauser and using that next season along with some of the others.


Mark
 
.303 is the fastest cycling bolt action out there. Took a black bear with it a year and a half ago. It was crawling up a hill. My first shot and second shot missed but the third shot got him in the heart. All that took place in about 3 or 4 seconds between the first and last shot.

I really wish modern bolt actions had the following Lee Enfield features
- Double stack double feed detachable magazine
- Short bolt stroke due to not passing locking lugs
- External striker for cocking. You're not supposed to open the bolt immediately after a misfire. This gives you a second chance. Even though lee enfields never misfire.
- #### on close. Allows you to run with a round halfway chambered and the safety on, locking the bolt. Also faster cycling.
 
A couple generations ago, this would have been the easy option to use milsurp or sporterised versions of milsurps (Enfields, Mausers, etc).

Given the lack of available parts, support, antiquated optics mounting solutions, anyone opting to use milsurp in lieu of other available options would probably be doing it for nostaglia which is perfectly fine too. Might as well make use of what one has, even if it isn't the 'optimal' tool of today.
Not so, a lot of parts are available for milsurps, such as No1 and No4 Lee Enfields, same goes for Mauser 98s, and Mosins. Any gunsmith worth the title knows where to look/acquire.

Some of the more obscure milsurps may have such issues.

I see a lot of sportered milsurps, both at the range as well as in the field. Mind you, I tend to look at the firearms others are using.

I don't see many of them in the hands of the "under 30" crowd, but I don't see many hunters under 30 either.

No reason not to use your milsurps for hunting, as long as you, a shooter/hunter have done your homework and know how to shoot them, with good quality ammunition, or have taken the time to be sure the rifle is capable of good accuracy with the ammunition you purchase.

Many European firearms are still utilizing the Mauser 98 platform as a basis for fine hunting rifles. Some modify the concept slightly, with mostly cosmetic changes, but a lot of the parts will fit, without alteration, onto the old milsurps.

If you have a Remington 798, or a Yugo Zastava, they're pretty much the intermediate length 98 Mauser action, made in Serbia since WWI era, all dressed up for the part.
 
I'm gonna take out my No4 Mk1 this year for deer, and possibly for moose. Any of the common milsurp rounds are fine hunting rounds. Only downside is the price, $50-100 for a box of 303 these days. Back in Newfoundland many a moose have been taken with the old tree O tree. Moose today aren't any tougher than moose from 100 years ago
 
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