Milsurp for hunting? Whos who?!

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In my "inexperience" of 60 hunting years, 303 was the most used, then 6.5x55 then 8x57. But that could be just a local thing. Currently I have 2, 8x57s a sporterized 1918 Danzig and a 1943 98k.
 
.303 is the fastest cycling bolt action out there. Took a black bear with it a year and a half ago. It was crawling up a hill. My first shot and second shot missed but the third shot got him in the heart. All that took place in about 3 or 4 seconds between the first and last shot.

I really wish modern bolt actions had the following Lee Enfield features
- Double stack double feed detachable magazine
- Short bolt stroke due to not passing locking lugs
- External striker for cocking. You're not supposed to open the bolt immediately after a misfire. This gives you a second chance. Even though lee enfields never misfire.
- #### on close. Allows you to run with a round halfway chambered and the safety on, locking the bolt. Also faster cycling.
Thank god there are a lot of rifles that don’t have those features. I don’t want almost all of those in a hunting rifle. And yes, Lee Enfields misfire, freeze up, have ftf etc. I’ve hunted enough with them to never again take one out in the bush.
 
Did you get that in writing as the judges & prosecutors are going to use the regs a written and the regs clearly say "a rifle capable of holding" and "capable" will be the ruling definition in a courthouse
That would include every detachable magazine bolt gun, lever action, Lee Enfield and SKS. One suspects that NOBODY makes such a consideration for rifle capacity.
 
Yes ask a question, jump right in. Better than doing 3 posts about nothing.
In my "inexperience" of 60 hunting years, 303 was the most used, then 6.5x55 then 8x57. But that could be just a local thing. Currently I have 2, 8x57s a sporterized 1918 Danzig and a 1943 98k.
One that is often forgotten is the 7 x 57; I still have one, but it does not get out much as here in southern Ontario, 270 is max.
 
I've hunted deer successfully with a No4 Mk1 full wood 303, but if I was in the market to buy a milsurp to hunt with I would choose a Swedish Mauser M38.
The original "Carbine" M96 would work well also, but not all that common.
 
I have a Mauser Model 71 carbine in 11mm. Very handy and fast handling. It would need sight adjustments to get it zeroed at deer hunting ranges though.
 
Yes ask a question, jump right in. Better than doing 3 posts about nothing.
In my "inexperience" of 60 hunting years, 303 was the most used, then 6.5x55 then 8x57. But that could be just a local thing. Currently I have 2, 8x57s a sporterized 1918 Danzig and a 1943 98k.
Yup, I've been hunting for a bit longer, not much, Lee Enfields, and some P14 enfields, pretty much dominated the hunting scene for the first ten to twenty years.

Fields, Marshal Wells, Hudson's Bay, Eaton's, Sears, Sidney I. Robinson, Army/Navy, Surplus stores, Pawn Shops, Herter's, and every hardware store, along with some rural grocery stores, had barrels, tables, or racks of new in grease No 1 and No 4 rifles at ridiculous prices, even for the time.

Sealed 1K containers of ammo were sometimes less than a ten cents per round, but a 10 ounce bottle of Coke was 6 cents as well.

We also saw P17s, a few 1903s in 30-06, and US Krags were also popular in some areas.

Mausers were there, but not nearly on the scale of Lee Enfields.

Many nations were still using all of these rifles as ''reserve'' weapons, all the way into the seventies, and dribbled them out as their storage facilities started filling up with modern firearms. Some nations held on to them right to present day, and even used their value to declare national worth.
 
Many people used them back in the day for sure. Money was tight in the 50s and 60s and my Dad bought a sporterized P-14 for $10 and used that to feed the family. He was a veteran, so very used to shooting with peep sights. Favourite load was Imperial 180 gr. CPE. That thing was a tack driver. I'd love to see more people use them today. Yes, they're long and heavy!
 
I have a Mauser Model 71 carbine in 11mm. Very handy and fast handling. It would need sight adjustments to get it zeroed at deer hunting ranges though.
I'm in the same boat . I picked up a 71 from a fellow Nutter this summer . It shoots really well but groups everything about 10 inches high at 100 yards ! The sights aren't original and need some looking at . Hopefully , it'll make it out next year . It really is a nice little rifle .
 
The only reason not to hunt with a milsurp is personal choice.
I've had a 303 jungle carbine in a synthetic stock that was very huntable but the recoil was punishing, that lead to a M96 in 6.5x55 that by the time I quit playing with it was more of a pretty bench gun than a hunter. I also used a highly modified M1917 rechambered to 300WM that is also to nice to use on select outings. One year I took an M1D as a backup rifle one trip and got offered an opportunity to hunt on a quad...not wanting to damage my Icon I strapped it to the bike for the day. I had no idea what it was worth at the time and once I knew it's value it never made another hunt and was (unfortunately) sold for a very low amount compared to today's values (even if I did double my money).
Milsurps are absolutely capable and just as repairable in most cases as new firearms but given their increased value and collect ability lately they are no longer the affordable option.
Still, on the right day packing one can offer some really great memories.
 
This past spring I took a Brazilian 1908 Mauser for bear. This fall for deer, bear, and elk, I'm using a K31 with a slip on pad to help it fit me properly. I have only ever hunted mid sized game with milsurp and have little intention to change that. Even my Winchester 1894 SRC is milsurp, it's one of the Royal Navy marked guns from the Great War.
 
I’d rather have sporterized surplus rifle than a savage axis any day. They are supposed to be cheap. Don’t over pay for one unless it is original or unmodified or has some collector value
 
Thank god there are a lot of rifles that don’t have those features. I don’t want almost all of those in a hunting rifle. And yes, Lee Enfields misfire, freeze up, have ftf etc. I’ve hunted enough with them to never again take one out in the bush.
Sounds like someone is trying to justify an expensive purchase in their own mind. This is normally the stage that sets in immediately after buyers remorse.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with any Lee enfield as a hunting rifle. I’d wager they have taken more game than any other rifle out there. I’ve owned tons of dirt cheap sporters and never found one that didn’t work.
 
I have a Mauser Model 71 carbine in 11mm. Very handy and fast handling. It would need sight adjustments to get it zeroed at deer hunting ranges though.
I love the 43 Mauser round. I have a few guns chambered in it. And I also made the 43 express by running 62mm long 458 winmag brass thought the 43 Mauser die and I counter bore the chamber for the belt and set head space with it.
 
I've shot 2 mountain goats and 6 blacktails with a parker hale custom no1

One goat with iron sights and one with a scope on the rifle

The first 2 pics are taken about 6' apart
The third pic you can see the lee Enfield by my daughter

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