Milsurp Rifles and Handguns Losing Value due to Liberals

First logical statement I've read in the last 24 hours.
Exactly......it's going to be pretty difficult to get compliance without specifics on how the many types of firearms are going to be "altered".

It will just change to another OIC banning them… All handguns are for sport shooters or collectors and they repeatedly stated they wldnt go after same. You will hear handguns referred to as military grade or for police/military use only soon…
 
Here's an example where the media (Canadian Press) got it very wrong. They said "Police would have new wiretapping powers to help stop gun trafficking", and despite their so called 'trusted journalism accuracy' that is incorrect.

What the Public Safety site linked above actually says is "make it an offence to alter a cartridge magazine to exceed its lawful capacity and allow for wiretaps for this new offence

So the public is led by a sloppy (or worse) media to conclude C-21 will give the authorities tools to go after gun criminals, but in reality it's to ferret out someone who might carelessly mention to a friend they have a non-compliant magazine.

Wiretaps and police resources listening to them to go after a 100 year old Lee Enfield mag? Really???

The only way an offence can be subject to wire tapping is by being an offence under Sec. 183 of the criminal code. I guess tampering with magazines would now be a wiretap-able offence.
 
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If you bend to these Liberal/NDP criminals in Ottawa, you disrespect every soldier that fought for your freedom.

You have an obligation to fight to keep it.

Your children and grand children depend on you doing your duty.
 
"Make it an offence to alter a cartridge magazine to exceed legal limits"
That is already a law isn't it? So it's double illegal now?
 
"Make it an offence to alter a cartridge magazine to exceed legal limits"
That is already a law isn't it? So it's double illegal now?

The fear, and what's being reported in the media (who knows where they got their information, how accurate it is or who's feeding it to them), is that it's 5 rounds across the board no matter how impractical or damaging to the firearm. They keep throwing around the term 'permanent' which remains undefined and very subjective. They might say any magazine that was originally intended to hold more that 5 rounds is illegal regardless. That would be destructively horrifying so probably what they are going to do.
 
Just think about how much more time police and prosecutors will have to go after your Enfield mags now that drug possession is being decriminalized.

Not to be a bummer, but we've been told not to lay charges for small personal amounts for quite awhile now and rarely do anymore. They're just making it official at this point.
 
Not to be a bummer, but we've been told not to lay charges for small personal amounts for quite awhile now and rarely do anymore. They're just making it official at this point.

2.4 grams of Carcentenal is actually not a small amount. Anyone with any knowledge of CDSA knows that amount could kill many people.
 
Generally speaking, cops don't usually check magazines. I suspect this trend will continue but I wouldn't bet my collection on it.

Think of all the Ruger 10/22 mags out there. Not one offence with those mags have made it past pre-trial because the feds don't want to get scrutinized on the how and whys on the change in regs.

Just another excuse to listen in and persecute people that will never ever vote for them. Gotta admit, the Libs go total war when ideology is involved. Now if we could do the same back to them....
 
All of this Liberal BS will serve absolutely no purpose other than penalize legal gunowners and the Liberals couldn't care less. Just a PR exercise so the empty-headed will feel "safer". The problem to a great extent is illegal handguns in use by criminal gangs in urban areas. They have announced next to nothing to address that issue just some vaguely worded statement about "increased efforts" to block illegal handguns coming from the US. How about automatic 10 years in prison if apprehended with an illegal handgun(or any gun) in commission of a crime? OH WAIT, Mulroney tried that back in the 80's and the boneheads on the Supreme Court ruled it excessive punishment.
 
2.4 grams of Carcentenal is actually not a small amount. Anyone with any knowledge of CDSA knows that amount could kill many people.

Oh I'm well aware. 2 grams of fentanyl is a lot worse than 2 grams of meth. Unfortunately it's the reality. Federal crown makes the decisions on drug files, and generally speaking they deal out or drop anything small, because they're more interested in the 3 pounds of hard drug cases, not 30 grams, which is actually a lot for a small town bust.
 
Hopefully we can initiate a Class Action Lawsuit against the Government for their destruction of value of our property. I know many people who have tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of dollars tied up in collections which are now worthless.
 
Well the Enfields will need their mags permanently modified. As well as Garands. Tube mags over 5 as well.
So it's coming, nothing is safe anymore. They can't claim its just modern semi autos, its clearly everything - including airsoft, not even a real firearm!

My Lee Enfield doesn't have any mag. Is the RCMP going to send me a 5 rd mag for my Enfield?
 
Makes me sad about the Carcanos. I always liked them. I don't own any now, but still.

A lot of ruined history.
 
You all are missing the point, they honestly don't care about firearms owners and know we aren't the problem.

If they simply wanted to ban handguns they could do it by OIC overnight or very quickly though Parliament as the NDP and likely Bloc would support them wholeheartedly. Instead they are going to keep up this incremental changes to try and get as much political support for it without actually doing much of anything for as long as they can as they don't want their wedge issue to disappear. They made that mistake with Marijuana and they haven't been able to get a majority since.
 
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