Milsurps and boresnakes

[RedRabbits]

I've been using boresnakes on my shotguns for a long time and like then a lot. My question for you all is are they any good for Milsurp guns or should I just stick with the rods and patches ?

 

[svt1940]

I've been using boresnakes on my shotguns for a long time and like then a lot. My question for you all is are they any good for Milsurp guns or should I just stick with the rods and patches ?

I never been attracted much by boresnakes, for my milsurp, i stick with their original cleaning kit
Joce

 

[Claven2]

With bore snakes, yo have the be careful about pulling them exactly parallel to the bore. If you pull them out off-centre, you will cord wear the muzzle.

 

[RedRabbits]

Thanks for the replies, I've always used rod and patches with my rifles I guess i will stick to what I know

 

[Travis Bickle]

With bore snakes, yo have the be careful about pulling them exactly parallel to the bore. If you pull them out off-centre, you will cord wear the muzzle.

Sorry, you're saying that the soft nylon cord that the boresnake is made of will wear down the hardened steel that handles a solid lead projectile covered in a full copper jacket just by rubbing against the muzzle slightly?

 

[harryhand]

Sorry, you're saying that the soft nylon cord that the boresnake is made of will wear down the hardened steel that handles a solid lead projectile covered in a full copper jacket just by rubbing against the muzzle slightly?

LOL

 

[Travis Bickle]

I use a boresnake on all my milsurps but not always.
I usually use the rod and patch method for normal basic cleaning.

I only use the boresnake after I do a good solid cleaning once in a while with the brass bore brush to really pull out the crud that it loosens up.

It's all personal preference but a boresnake, contrary to a lot of purisits on these forums, is not going to magically destroy a rifle.

They are very handy for when you do not have as much time as you hoped to clean your rifle after use or as a quick clean with a bit of solvent at the range to use while the rifles bore is still warm which really is the best time to clean it if you are one of those obsessive gun cleaners. I am not.

I say use 'em if you got 'em

 

[flying pig]

Obviously never bought a milsurp with a cord worn barrel then. It DOES happen!

 

[Travis Bickle]

Obviously never bought a milsurp with a cord worn barrel then. It DOES happen!

Not yet Sir, no I have not.

I have seen some milsurps that had barrels almost worn clean through to the rifling from the outside from being transported in soft rifle transport bags.

Also there was one rifle that I thought was worn from the constant use of hard brass bore brushes during cleaning, but then I realized that it was the soft cotton patches on the cleaning rods that had really destroyed the bore!

 

[jody_v]

Not yet Sir, no I have not.

I have seen some milsurps that had barrels almost worn clean through to the rifling from the outside from being transported in soft rifle transport bags.

Also there was one rifle that I thought was worn from the constant use of hard brass bore brushes during cleaning, but then I realized that it was the soft cotton patches on the cleaning rods that had really destroyed the bore!

You're kidding right??

 

[smellie]

If you people had ANY idea how many cord-worn barrels the Army replaced over the years, you would be down on your knees, thanking Claven2 for some very darned good advice.

In future, before starting to poke fun at someone who has MANY more years of experience than yourselves, I would suggest that you READ THE F*(%$* MANUAL.

YES, it DOES happen. Have none of you "experts" ever picked up a piece of ordinary GRAVEL???????? It is ROCK and it is ROUNDED.... and it GOT rounded from WATER, which is a helluvvalot softer than the hemp or jute cord issued with the rifles..... or even that nice "soft" nylon cord on the BoreSnake.

"Brains should be engaged before Mouths are opened."

Read the MANUAL. You can get your own copy by clicking on the appropriate Sticky at the top of the Index for this Forum. It's even FREE.
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BTW, BoreSnake works just dandy if you pull it STRAIGHT through, NO sideways pressure on the muzzle. Quick and easy, just remember always STRAIGHT through.

Have fun!
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[flying pig]

Travis you ever had rope burn?

 

[haretrigger]

Correct me if I'm making an assumption that carbon, lead and or copper jacket fouling, combined with dirt and or oils tends to build up on the pull through (a.k.a. "boresnake") which creates an abrasive compound that would cause excessive muzzle wear if it was not pulled through STRAIGHT as noted by Smellie?

 

[Qhergt]

Bore snakes are great. Just make sure you use the correct one for the cal, and wash them after a few uses (i toss mine into an old pillow case and toss into the washing machine).

Any form of "cleaning" will eventualy wear your barrel.

 

[Travis Bickle]

To say that any object rubbing on any object would wear both objects down over time is pretty obvious over time.

We're talking about a piece of rope wearing down steel at the blinding speed of water smoothing rock now?!
So by the time nature carves me another Grand Canyon my Mosin Nagant will need a new crown job I guess.

lol Read me all the manuals you want. I'll stay more concerned with my usual rod/patch, bore brush cleaning and especially metal bullets at thousands of feet per second followed by incredibly hot gasses acting on the crown wearing out my bore long before my boresnake is going to render it destroyed.

Yes I've also had rope burn.

Who the hell is pulling a bore snake through the bore at lightning speed, enough to create so much blinding heat that it's going to wear steel out in any amount of relevant time?!

And yes, you should pull the cord straight if you can......

 

[Travis Bickle]

You're kidding right??

Yes Sir.

 

[donor]

I use bore snake just before I shoot it just to remove leftover oil from the barrel.
All proper cleaning is done after shooting,at home,with alu cleaning rod and patches and even this is done very lightly with maybe 2-3 patches of Hoppes,few dry ones and one with oil.
I use casts in all my milsurps so cleaning might be a bit easier.

Overall snakes are really good idea once you use them properly,use proper size and wash them often enough.

 

[Qhergt]

I use bore snake just before I shoot it just to remove leftover oil from the barrel.
All proper cleaning is done after shooting,at home,with alu cleaning rod and patches and even this is done very lightly with maybe 2-3 patches of Hoppes,few dry ones and one with oil.
I use casts in all my milsurps so cleaning might be a bit easier.

Overall snakes are really good idea once you use them properly,use proper size and wash them often enough.

Boresnake has 100x more the surface area then a patch. I don't even bother with patches anymore. Pull snake through dry, then Dab of solvent on the leading portion of the snake before the intergrated brush, and some oil an inch from the bottom. Pull, a quick look down the barrel to verify its clean and its done. (Can run a patch though after that to check the results, sort of like using a white glove to check for dirt)

 

[Andy]

I use a bore snake - works well, but you have to keep it clean. As for the nylon wearing steel, try cutting a few nylon ropes into pieces - dulls the blade pronto. Heck, paper-patched bullets wear steel rifling!

 

[Hawkshadow]

So I think everyone agrees that boresnakes aren't too bad as long as they're used properly and cleaned. That being said, how does everyone go about cleaning them? I've always just hand-washed mine and hung to dry.