Milsurps are the greatest thing ever.

full auto is fun, but stupid.

one shot from a bolt action or semi auto into the chest of the enemy vs 50 rounds into the air and dirt around the enemy...

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i mean full auto infantry rifles are stupid.
support machine guns make sense of course....etc
 
Come on..full auto is not about wasting ammo..but spending it :D ! And sometimes,small burst can be quite effective..Especially in a country where markmanship is now lost from most of the citizenship :rolleyes: !

It take a lot of money nowadays to train a soldier..Time cost a lot of money,but ammo is cheaper :p !

But we can all agree on one thing : milsurp is a God Send :dancingbanana: !!! Can't wait to get my damn license (almost a month and nothing is moving,waaah :runaway: !!!) my father and his own father never needed and get my drity and sweety hands over a Lee Enfield and a M1 Garand :dancingbanana: :shotgun: :evil: !

Schneider
 
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One member here who's a friend of mine has a SMLE Mk1 marked to the ALH. I suspect it's a safe be to assume it was present for the charge at Beersheba in 1917.

I once had a C-broadarrowed SMLE MkIII that I could document as likely being present at Pschendale. I still regret having ever sold that one :(

I also know several of my Finn Mosins were heavily involved in the Winter War.
 
tiriaq said:
Have you ever fired a full auto?
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I have :) Sadly, the closest thing I've gotten to do recently is pump belts though my semi MG34 on rapid fire.

Full auto is about as fun as fun gets, but it gets expensive REAL FAST.
 
Wow, I'd give almost anything for a SMLE that was present at the 3rd battle of Ypres, where my great uncle, and namesake, was killed. I would give anything for a SMLE that was present, and 27th Bn. marked...if you've got one...:D
 
i have a 1942 No. 4 Mk. 2 made at the Faz plant. not sure where it was used, but the overall condition of the stock, and the fact that it was re-arsenaled in 1953. is there a remote to good chance this rifle saw action?
 
I think the next thing I'll do is letting my No1MarIII and M44 catch up with hunting. But my SKS won't stop bring meat home either. :)
 
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Claven2 said:
One member here who's a friend of mine has a SMLE Mk1 marked to the ALH. I suspect it's a safe be to assume it was present for the charge at Beersheba in 1917.

Still have the ALH that old buddy Claven2 refers to. It was later designated EY/2 and wire wrapped for grenade launching. Ca only imagine the action the old boy saw. Oddly enough theres a near identical MKI at the Canadian Scottish Bay street armoury museum here in Victoria, ALH and EY/2 marked and only a few rack numbers apart!

Geoff in Victoria
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Stupid is as stupid does, they say.
Well, the Lebel kept my grand-father alive and shooting in Verdun and in all the 1914-1918 meatgrinder unpleasantness. Maybe it was a Berthier, too, I don't know. They had to do with what was at hand.
And they did well, I guess...
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Glad he made it out of there. The enurance of those millions of french soldiers who fought while Paris and the rest of the west picniced and spent high wages is what makes me very ornery about anyone slandering the french soldier. Parisians might be spineless but nothing poor should be said about the men who fought to keep the "Kaiser at bay".


I love the below so much I had to repost it in the thread:
Lebels', Mas', Lee Enfields, Mausers, Mannlichers, Mosin Nagants, Krags, Springfields, Arisakas, Martinis, Berdans, etc, the list goes on and on. The next problem is you aren't satisfied with just one example. It's sheer madness and an out and out addiction, but at least you still have something of value when your finished shooting it ore strokeing it, Not like lighting up and puffing the hard earned money into the air, never to be recovered. Buy more, enjoy more. bearhunter
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skirsons said:
Stupid Lebel... French Rifles are pretty but useless.
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Every Hun taken down with a Lebel was one less Hun to shoot at our Canadian troops, so IMHO the Lebel, and the men that used them where aces in my books. :)
 
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Well I just acquired my first potentially "wartime" milsurp, a 91/30 Nagant that was re-arsenaled in the Ukraine, and the more I Look at it the more it turns out to be a mix of parts, but still, there's something about getting an old milsurp in your hands and wondering about the poor bugger that had to carry it around in Europe. Who was he ? Where did he come from ? Did he make it through the war in one piece ? Down the to the point where I wonder how every ding and scratch came to happen.
 
Some Finnish Mosins still harbor pieces of metal imbedded in their stocks.
I have an M-24 that has a very small yellow-tinged shard fused into the upper surface of the receiver. Many show very sharp scars that don't look like rack pockmarks at all.
PP.
 
Calum said:
Every Hun taken down with a Lebel was one less Hun to shoot at our Canadian troops, so IMHO the Lebel, and the men that used them where aces in my books. :)
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The french rifles simple don't interest me. But I respect the solders who carried them.
 
RobSmith said:
Well I just acquired my first potentially "wartime" milsurp, a 91/30 Nagant that was re-arsenaled in the Ukraine, and the more I Look at it the more it turns out to be a mix of parts, but still, there's something about getting an old milsurp in your hands and wondering about the poor bugger that had to carry it around in Europe. Who was he ? Where did he come from ? Did he make it through the war in one piece ? Down the to the point where I wonder how every ding and scratch came to happen.
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ALL the refurbs have a mix of parts - they are refurbs, after all ;) Still - they are a great buy on a great rifle :)
 
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