Mini 14 and why do some oppose

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why do some folks oppose the Mini 14 being labeled a black and green rifle i want to know? what defines a black and green rifle ?

is it the fact its used by LEO's and/or military ?

is that its modifiable?

or that it uses NATO rounds?
 
is it the fact its used by LEO's and/or military ?
Rarely

is that its modifiable?
some what

or that it uses NATO rounds?
Its marked .223 for export but chambered in 5.56x45mm Nato
 
The Mini 14 to me, is a sporting or hunting rifle, as was it's nature when bred into existence.

Varying Police and Military services around the world pressed it into service which then gave it a spotlight for this kind of use.

Can it be a "Black Gun"?

I suppose.

"Black Gun" to me is defined as what the platform was made to do. What does it's soul or essence identify it as?

I guess the Mini 14 is also the "Runt" of the litter of rifles. It has its issues with accuracy, but has its followers and supporters, as also its haters.

To me the Mini 14 is a 100 yard gun. Its meant for the ranch or property. It has it's uses and it's purpose.

Korean business owners in the LA Riots sat atop their stores armed with Ruger Mini 14s protecting their properties and families.
 
so because its not super poplular it cant be called a black and green rifle


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dont look much like a bush gun to me?

and what about the guys who take an AR slap a 10.5 inch barrel on it your telling me that is a black and green rifle despite the fact that Dennis the Menace has better accuracy with a slingshot
 
I think it's general exclusion comes from the fact that it is a commercial rifle that has never seen serious service use.

There are other guns that meet this description that get a pass, like the XCR, but it was at least intended for military service.

The Mini14 is a sporting gun with black furniture.

I don't think there are any official rules about what constitutes a black rifle, but IMO most people would associate black guns with mil-derived stuff from the post-ww2 era.

If you like the Mini14 I would say rock on, but it's a commercial gun that has never seen serious service use and consequently it does not have the same kind of adverse-conditions track record to reference the way the mil designs do.
 
ok so commercial rifle one could say that the mini 15 is based of the AC556 which was full auto and designed for military and LEO use just like the m16 or the c7 both full auto and for commercial use semi auto models were made. so because it didn't slay its way across some crappy country its not a black rifle?
 
They never make it thru classes. It's a poorly built hobby gun that will not survive serious usage. LE folks tended to get them in years ago as a Patrol Carbine, but since they suck, they got replaced in all but the most obtuse departments.

There is a good reason the AC556 died a well deserved death, in that it is an unmitigated POS, the Mini-14 is just a non select fire POS.

But hey if you like it carry on.
 
The mini 14 is a "good enough" gun, sort of a jack of all trades but not really good at any one thing in particular. I wouldn't call it a black rifle, more of a utility rifle that can do some black rifle stuff reasonably well.

I'm not sure why it's so poular in the States since there's so many better options available at that price point, but in Canada there aren't many options for a non restricted, magazine fed, semi auto, 223 rifle that's under $1000.
 
I hate the term "black rifle."

I grew up thinking a gun is a gun. Bullets come out one end. It doesn't matter what it's called, what it looks like, how much it costs, who made it, or what it was made for.

If I put a folding stock on my Winchester Model 70, paint it black, and put a red dot sight on it, will it be a "black rifle?"
 
Why do people worry about what other people call it or how they think about one of your firearm? if you like it go out and enjoy it.

Sitting here trying to get to some kind support or approval really enforce the whole notion that firearm ownership is rather phallic. :D
 
The Mini-14 went in and out of fashion, for me it was buying a non-res gun in Canada that could shoot 5.56mm. The 94 AWB down here was its main claim to fame for sales down here, as AR's had 'evil' features and needed to be neutered to a point.

Many folks buy them and are happy. The main reason for that is that they do not shoot that much, and they don't have a accuracy requirement.

For me the gun went south when I took it to the range and tried to group it. I know a number of folks who are in the same boat.

The grand scheme of life is that the vast majority of gun buyers are poorly educated, and do not know enough to make an educated firearms purchase.

V/R
 
Tudenom said:
The mini 14 is a "good enough" gun, sort of a jack of all trades but not really good at any one thing in particular. I wouldn't call it a black rifle, more of a utility rifle that can do some black rifle stuff reasonably well.

I'm not sure why it's so poular in the States since there's so many better options available at that price point, but in Canada there aren't many options for a non restricted, magazine fed, semi auto, 223 rifle that's under $1000.
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Ruger marketed it as a military rifle, that should make it a legitimate black or green rifle, just doesn't have a pistol grip. Be thankfull it's about the only affordable small bore semi-auto with a detachable mag you can take out in public. Originally dubbed the worlds most expensive plinker :D

Grizz
 
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