Mini 14 Target Model

I reloaded a bunch yesterday instead of going to the range as Ardent said it was raining too hard but I guess I'm not as much of a die hard anymore... :)

Sat in my gun room for most of the day reloading...

I have some new 223 loads to try now... :)
 
Ardent when you switched stocks to the Houge did you buy the metal pieces for the stock as well or did you just switch your internal stock pieces over?

I've been looking at buying the Houge OD OverMolded stock for mine and they do not come with the internal metal so I was curious what is needed.
 
I got out to the club again yesterday it was sunny and 10 - 12 degrees out but I had a very strong cross wind so I was trying to use my mil-dots to adjust for the wind and bullet drop.

Had some flyers but over all once I kind of figured the wind and trajectory out I got some ok groups.

I was shooting faster than I normally would and wasn't letting the barrel cool off so most of the shots were from a hot barrel.

Here are some 200 yard targets.

50gr Sierra Blitz

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60gr Sierra HP Varminters

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Here are some 300 yard targets

60gr Varminters

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This is a 3" - 2" 5 shot group where I wasn't trying to adjust for the wind you can see how far it blew to the left.

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Last one

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Ardent thanks...

I completely dismantled the rifle yesterday to clean it this was my first experience doing this.

I have pulled the stock off before and gave a quick cleaning but never completely dismantled it.

With the scope on the bolt took a little twisting to get out but when it came out it was totally easy.

I cleaned, scrubbed and oiled everything now it was time to put the bolt back in...

Ahhh it wouldn't go in now how do I get this thing back in... :confused:

I ended up removing the scope by just loosening the ring cross bolts then popped off the little side plate that houses the slide/bolt lock and removed this piece.

Once this piece was out of the way the bolt popped into place so I quickly reassembled the rifle.

To say that I am impressed with the design of this rifle would be a bit of an understatement.

Now I just need too locate/buy an olive drab Hogue OverMolded stock and accompaning metal renforcement pieces and I'm set.
 
Wasn't Sure, But Now, Maybe??

Picked up the laminated stock version about a month ago. Unfortunately, the only gr. of bullets I could get were cheapo 55 gr. A.E. Also have some white box 45 gr. Winchester that my CZ Bolt just loves. Anyway, I've got a 3200 Bushnell 3-9x50 mounted on it. So....off to the range to see how this puppy shot.

First time out did the barrel break-in routine, shot 10 rounds, solvent, brush, cleaner, oil and repeat nine more times. So wasn't looking to get much accuracy out of it at the time. Next week end was more serious and started to play with the compensator. From having the compensator flush with the barrel and @ 100 yds getting 2" +/- I started to play with compensator. From all the previous articles I had read, everyone seemed to get the best results with 55 gr. setting compensator back approx. 3/4". So I did the immediately and got an excellent 3 shot group of 3/4", but, that group was now 3" low and 2" left of the bullseye. So...the compensator changed up P.O.I. significantly. So I dialed the scope back up and got back on bullseye, but group not as tight. Threw about 50 rounds down range to set if I could get any tighter, but to no avail. I'm sure that I was responsible for 50% of the equation of not getting tight groups. Anyway, that was it for shooting that day.

Next weekend, went up to a buddy's cabin with attached gravel pit/shooting range. Unfortunately, we had some pretty high winds for the entire weekend plus I came down with a bad flu bug; so I didn't get very tight groups. Put about 200 rds. down range over 2 days. I was disappointed, because I had read about this new, re-tooled Mini over a year ago, kept bugging the dealer as to when they'd get in, finally picked one up and after shooting it, I didn't think it was that accurate....until I saw some of the targets you guys have been posting. Well, that's about the same type of grouping that I've been getting, so maybe now I'll keep it. I am probably unfairly comparing to my CZ527 Varmint bolt with shoots tiny little groups that touch each other at 100 yds.

Anyway, I'm back out to the bud's cabin end of this month so hopefully I can fine tune it even more. A friend of mine is getting so 65/66/70 gr. stuff to try out also to see if it likes the heavier stuff.

Regards cleaning, impressive in that you unhinge the trigger guard, pull out the trigger system and the whole rifle comes apart (never owned a Mini before so not familiar with how easy to disassemble). Only ##### is getting the bolt out with scope on, but as Camp Cook figured out, you have to take apart the bolt hold open system. The stop piece projects into the chamber to hold (of course) the bolt open, but at the same time prevents you from removing and re-installing the bolt for cleaning.

Anyway, when I get to cabin/gravel pit/shooting range April 26-29, I'm taking the camera and will post some pics.

As another note, if you stay with the laminated stock and want to use a bipod, Ruger doesn't ship with a swivel ring. You need to get an adapter from Harris (pod I'm using) for about $30.00. Now came the challenge of fitting it together, so you either have to bend the crap out of the ring and twist it back it (messy) or I took a nail that fit the hole, cut of the head, figured out the width, filed down both ends so not sharp and then took a pce. of heat shrink tubing, slid over the nail, applied some Bic heat and voilà, it slide on perfectly, tight enough to not slide out, and the adapter and bipod fit like a glove.
 
Waynewjw,
Good write up.

I have to admit I'm not an expert but... for the bipod, why not just add a swivel stud. Predrill smaller than the stud and fasten it in. Clip on a Harris bipod and you're good to go. Is there something I'm missing here?
 
Do Not Drill For Swivel Stud

Hey Epoxy...swivel stud is perfect, expect that the Mini has a "center channel" that runs the length of the forearm. This is metal lined and is a functioning part of the gas block system. The front part of the forearm for about 6" back is very thin wood, a swivel stud would go right through and into the gas system liner, or if you cut the stud shorter, with not much repeated use of bipod, the stock would crack.

I think anyone who has the same laminated version and has taken apart will agree.
 
I'm sure I'll see what you mean in a few weeks :D.

That does make sense though. Thanks for the explanation.

How about inserting a larger metal threaded piece for the stud to connect to rather than putting the stud directly into the laminate? Ie pre drill a much larger hole, put in the threaded metal piece, Epoxy it in and then the stud screws into that. I'm not a wood work or metal work expert here, so I'm just throwing out ideas (Thinking out loud). The larger surface area should help take some of the pressure off the thinner laminate and help prevent cracking. At least in theory.
 
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I dunno

Epoxy, once you get the 14 you'll see what I'm talking about. A lot of work to drill out a hole, inset a larger pce. to screw stud into. Problem is the laminated wood may not take the pressure of a bi-pod spring going back and forth.

I thought about what I would do and my solution cost 1 nail and some rubber worth 10 cents. Also took about 10 min. to do.
 
With regards to putting the bolt back in after cleaning, I've found that pulling out the tail of the firing pin a bit (at the back of the bolt) allows it much more leeway to fit back in.
 
I just got mine today from SIR.

One thing though, the rings were missing. Fortunately I bought a different set from Ardent. I'll be calling them up on Monday about the rings. A bit of a tick off but no big deal.

I'll be putting a Falcon Menace 4-14x 44m on this rifle. It should be a lot of fun.

Initial impressions:

The stock is nicer in person than in the pictures. I actually like it. Very comfortable as well. With the 30mm low rings I bought the sight picture and cheek weld should be perfect.

The action is definately robust. A bit crude in some ways due to the size and older battle rifle heritage but still well made and in stainless steel. I like the way the action works and it's built like a Mack truck. I expect this rifle to be very reliable. Feeding and ejection were very good with a snap cap. Although the ejection is at about 4:00, which would be a bit dicey for left hand shooters.

The trigger. Initially it had some creep in it. After oiling and some dry firing with a snap cap, the trigger smoothed right out. No creep anymore. The trigger is heavy but very useable. A trigger job may be in the future.

The safety again seems a bit crude but it's effective. I like the way you can set and unset it with your index finger. That's very convenient.

My first impressions are very good. Considering this rifle was under $1K including taxes and shipping there isn't much not to like.



Just need the scope and It'll be ready to go.
 
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After shooting my laminate stocked Mini target for several hundred rounds now I have a thought on the stocks.

I have found it to be very comfortable and easy to shoot from a bench rest but when I am free handing the shot I am finding that I do not hold the rifle as steady as a standard stock.

Yesterday while I was between Lethbridge and Fort McCloud I finally had a chance to try it out on gophers...

The snow storms had really put a dampener on finding gophers but the 4 I saw (yes I only saw 4) ate a 50gr Sierra Blitz even with the major cross winds I was able to place the shots that averaged 100 yards.

Pays off to have practiced with the mil-dot reticle out to 300 yards I guess.

I also find that the trigger needs some tuning.
 
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I just picked up a used one today. It came with a BSA "sweet series" 3-12X scope.

Now I just need some trigger time.

I have a question about the harmonic dampener. Is the idea that, after some practice and testing, you would make a note about where to dial the dampener depending on the various loads you may use. So, then you turn it to that setting each time you use that particular load and hope for similar results. Is that the idea?

Oh and where can I get some additional mags?
 
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Mine has the scope on it, and the trigger is done. The trigger by the way is very nice now that a gunsmith has cleaned it up. Feels like 2.5 pounds. It's good.

I have a Falcon Menace 4-14x 44mm FFP scope with the ML-16 reticle. It seems to suit the rifle fairly well.

As soon as the brutal winds die down (-18 right now, -30 with wind chill) I'll take it out to the range.
 
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