Modern Hunter jamming issue
- Thread starter gord1986
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I accept this argument for fitting of the upper to the lower, however is it necessary for the bolt, BCG and barrel extension? There are plenty of high quality AR10's which do not need to be bathed in lubricant that produce groupings that are equal if not superior to anything I've seen posted by this rifle thus far. I think this rifle leans too far towards the precision bolt rifle side of the house, where it should have leaned more heavily towards their AR builds.
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- Jameson, SK
If you follow Rick's instructions, and something goes wrong, he'll support you 100%.
If you don't, you'll have a one of two things - a useless gun, or a big repair bill.
-J.
ps - you'll also have no sympathy from us.
If you don't, you'll have a one of two things - a useless gun, or a big repair bill.
-J.
ps - you'll also have no sympathy from us.
Shaun's comments were regarding semi's needing to be soaked. As in ALL semi's need to be soaked. Playing up that the bolt guys are misunderstood how all semi's run and not used to oiling requirements.
He should have said MODERN HUNTERS need to be soaked. As in isolated to this firearm that they build.
I don't argue that the manufacture instructions should be followed, but seems odd. What happens when you let off 100-300 rounds? Does re-application of lube be a requirement?
Just curious. I've been eyeing up a few EE ads, but all these things have to be considered.
He should have said MODERN HUNTERS need to be soaked. As in isolated to this firearm that they build.
I don't argue that the manufacture instructions should be followed, but seems odd. What happens when you let off 100-300 rounds? Does re-application of lube be a requirement?
Just curious. I've been eyeing up a few EE ads, but all these things have to be considered.
Why in the world would you buy a 5000$ rifle and shoot crap through it? It's like getting a brand new ferrari and putting 87 octane in it, and wondering why your car won't keep running.
I'm a BIG fan of the m14/m1a platform, norincos included..... but after shooting a friends .308 modern hunter last week, there really is no comparison.
did it out shoot my fully tricked out LRB M25..... nope, but pretty damn close. fed gold medal match 168gr, both rifles hovering at 1 moa
If I don't end up movin to the states , i'll probably get one of these rifles after all. will know in a few short months.
It's good to see a new platform with so much support from the manufacturer and fellow owners.
I'm a BIG fan of the m14/m1a platform, norincos included..... but after shooting a friends .308 modern hunter last week, there really is no comparison.
did it out shoot my fully tricked out LRB M25..... nope, but pretty damn close. fed gold medal match 168gr, both rifles hovering at 1 moa
If I don't end up movin to the states , i'll probably get one of these rifles after all. will know in a few short months.
It's good to see a new platform with so much support from the manufacturer and fellow owners.
I know you want a MH in 338 fed Tom but don't dich the 308 lol
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because I was broke from paying $5000.00 for my rifle?
So buy a $5000 rifle and don't feed it good ammo? Might as well be a paper weight.
I like the concept of the MH, and I think the execution is pretty dam good, lets remember this is a Canadian manufacturer that jumped through all the hoops that the feds put in their way and brought us an accurate semi auto capable of hunting and possibly competition. I have shot my shooting partner's MH and we had some issues with blown primers and so on, talked to Rick and he suggested the 2850fps of the 155 Amax Palme Match Hornady ammo might be too hot for the action to cycle with out some issues. He suggested trying some 168-175 at around 2650 and voila, it shot with no issues at all. He has kept his overall pretty dry so far and had no issues but I think we will try it wet as suggested earlier and see how she works. I think it will be a great rifle overall, and like all rifles it will have it's own preferences for ammo and lube, if you don't like it then don't buy it!
I could not answer either of those two questions. If I bought a MH for $5000, I would NOT feed it surplus ammo in steel cases. The reason for buying a MH is for accuracy in a self loading rifle, why feed it crap? Pony up and buy good ammo or reload, thats the way I see it. I am not a snob, and no money is not falling out of my pockets, but I see no reason to have a great rifle like that to feed it crap ammo that will likely not allow the rifle to show it's accuracy potential.
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- calgary alberta
Why not simply bring the rifle in so we can see IF it is actually a rifle problem and help you deal with it. We would be very happy to explain the facts about the rifle to you.
As some have suggested , rather than wasting time on the forum getting speculation from others why not let the actual designers/manufacturer help you?
It is not like you are in a different part of the world or anything.
onetwentyish
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- East Central AB (AKA Northern Texas)
Depending on the Surplus, the things you will run into are the following: terrible accuracy, shorter barrel life, and increased malfunction probability because the rifle was not designed to run on surplus. The fact that some of the barrels alone on these rifles cost close to $2k should scare most off from shortening the barrel life with crap ammo and should scare the rest off with the realisation that an expensive rifle with crap ammo is not better then a crap rifle with crap ammo, so if you desire to feed a .308 semi on the cheap, get an M305 and a couple cases of Norc and it will shoot just as good as the MH would with #### ammo, and instead of worrying about the barrel burning out you can just buy another new M305.
Yes that is a very good point. I apologize how this thread turned out, I simply wanted to know if others were having similar issues so I would be able to discuss it better with your gun smith's, or if it was a quick fix I could do my self at home. The thread kind of went in a totally different direction though.
I'll just bring it in to you guys rather then get speculation on here.
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Don't be soory sum of us can't go right to ATRS
I for one hope after you bring your MH in that ATRS will post a report of there finding
And you post on the conclusion
Wear all new to this rifle,and learning that reminds me I have to call ATRS and see what's up with my 338 upper and if it's Finnish yet
@OP: Out of the box, my MH was doing the exact same thing. Same light strikes, same binding just before it would go into battery, same sticking coming out of the mag.
At around 100 rounds I dropped ATRS an email...Shaun gave me exactly the same advice....and was right.
A couple of hundred heavily-lubricated rounds later and things are definitely smoothing up as the bolt, carrier and extension are breaking in.
Stay with the recommended light lubricants. I tried a grease (Wilson Ultima Lube) and it did not work well. G96, MPro-7 and Castrol 5w20 Synthetic have all worked well for me.
Whatever you use, just make sure there is a lot of it, and expect to be cleaning and stripping down the bolt and carrier every 20-40 rounds to begin with.
At around 100 rounds I dropped ATRS an email...Shaun gave me exactly the same advice....and was right.
A couple of hundred heavily-lubricated rounds later and things are definitely smoothing up as the bolt, carrier and extension are breaking in.
Stay with the recommended light lubricants. I tried a grease (Wilson Ultima Lube) and it did not work well. G96, MPro-7 and Castrol 5w20 Synthetic have all worked well for me.
Whatever you use, just make sure there is a lot of it, and expect to be cleaning and stripping down the bolt and carrier every 20-40 rounds to begin with.
