Modern rifles/platforms in 6.5x55
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Yeah, a 1640 made in 1961, if you look on the husqvarna thread it'll be there. Got it for $300, just had to strip the stock and add a recoil pad.
Falconflyer
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So true, the very modern 6.5 PRC is pretty much a ballistic twin to the old 270 out close to 400 yards. The deer certainly wouldn't be able to tell any difference!
That missing .013" is just magic, you know
Clearly puts .270 Win over the edge!Let's not worry about how most of the damage is done by the hydrostatic shock of the bullet when its hitting and expanding and/or fragmenting, and NOT the (extremely similar) frontal diameter of an expanded bullet passing through in pistol-like fashion lol.
That missing .013" is just magic, you know
Let's not worry about how most of the damage is done by the hydrostatic shock of the bullet when its hitting and expanding and/or fragmenting, and NOT the (extremely similar) frontal diameter of an expanded bullet passing through in pistol-like fashion lol.
I want to like and give the 6.5PRC a go, especially since ammo is actually avail locally to me. But.. as mentioned the PRC family maybe the WSM of this day and age.
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The platforms have been mentioned but Tika, Zastavia, Howa, and some of those used M98 HVA'a come to mind.
Someone mentioned the lack of difference between the 6.5 Creedmore, the 280rem, the 7mm rm, etc. In my opinion, all true, I can't see 200 fps in velocity making much difference wrt terminal results. More important to the results would be the sectional density and construction of the bullet. And FWIW the Swede is right there in the middle with the rest of them loaded to modern pressures.
IIRC the reason so many of the factory loads are light is so that people using a M96 don't blow their faces off.
I have a Swede in a New Haven Model 70 Featherweight Classic. Beautiful little rifle that I don't take out enough. I do remember when I was working loads up that it made noise but there was no recoil (when compared to 338wm). IIRC I was using 140 or 150 grain bullets at 2600fps (just moved, still setting up my reloading room.)
Someone mentioned the lack of difference between the 6.5 Creedmore, the 280rem, the 7mm rm, etc. In my opinion, all true, I can't see 200 fps in velocity making much difference wrt terminal results. More important to the results would be the sectional density and construction of the bullet. And FWIW the Swede is right there in the middle with the rest of them loaded to modern pressures.
IIRC the reason so many of the factory loads are light is so that people using a M96 don't blow their faces off.
I have a Swede in a New Haven Model 70 Featherweight Classic. Beautiful little rifle that I don't take out enough. I do remember when I was working loads up that it made noise but there was no recoil (when compared to 338wm). IIRC I was using 140 or 150 grain bullets at 2600fps (just moved, still setting up my reloading room.)
Pretty much. It is similar with 7x57 ammo. Old guns means weak ammo in NA. Europe had hot loads, but they never sold a lot of them over here. Like you I have a Win 70 in 6.5 Swede, it is easily the fastest Swede I've owned. - dan
A M96 doesn't have the safety lug of a M98 or the gas handling. I was in the butts at a Farky Class competition with oldtimer. He was telling me the velocities he was getting with his M96, they were the same as I was getting with my 264WM. His face didn't look the least bit rearranged. In those days any 6.5 was real odd ball.
Know a guy who used to blow up guns semi regularly. Never hurt himself, but those loads were scary. - dan
I have more experience with the 6.5 x 55 Swedish Mauser than any other cartridge (barring the 22LR) by sheer volume of shooting and handloading, and will always have a soft spot for it. Having shot the milder ammunition as well as the hotter Euro spec ammunition, I can say that I definitely prefer the latter for hunting and shooting a little farther out (4-500 yards). And for this, the newer modern rifles with stronger actions lend well to this level of performance. (I too miss my Rem 700 Classics, but nowhere near as much now that I have a very accurate LH Sako 85). And the majority of 100,000 elg/year taken in Scandinavia with the Ol' Swede every year can't be wrong!
Having also owned, and currently owning, the 260 Rem and 6.5 Creedmoor, I can say that they are so similar in overall performance, it is just nitpicking to say one is better than the other. The main advantage is case capacity and the ability to push the heavies a little better than the 2 smaller cases, if one must nit pick.
They can all be very accurate, and provide quick, clean kills on a wide variety of big game when bullets are placed accurately in the vitals with sufficient retained energy to perform properly. The only reason I do not have the 260 Rem any longer is that it was not left handed. And my LH Browning X Bolt All Weather performed very well on red stag, fallow buck and Arapawa rams in New Zealand this spring! My wife has had so much fun with it that she just bought her own LH Browning X Bolt Hunter in 6.5 CM. Hard to say what would have been the result should she have tried my 6.5x55 instead! Used the 6.5 CM as I really wanted to field test the Federal Terminal Ascent ammunition on game - haven't seen any in the 6.5x55.
At one point the Terminal Ascent had been sold as a component. Or when it was called something else first. TLR? I'd put a box through a Tikka in 6.5x55 and it shot them pretty well but this is years back.
Ramshot Hunter I think.
Yeah, like I said, it was a few years back. Think it was the Terminal Ascent. They were selling from Wolverine GT anyway, and never saw them again.
With the solid copper shank and the bit of lead in the front, but bonded, it really is the "best of both worlds" bullet to me too. Been a fan since using the TBBC in 7mm (7x57) and followed that bullet family since.
Actually it must have been the Terminal Ascent. It wasnt black with the blue tip.
I sure would like to see it (Terminal Ascent) as a component! Want to try the 155 gr in my 280 Rem.
Need to try the 300 WSM 200gr ammo to see how it compares with the 180 gr AB.
I would also like to see it a few more calibers...such as 257 (110 or 115 gr), 338 (200 or 215 gr), 9.3 (250 gr) and 375 (260gr).
Need to try the 300 WSM 200gr ammo to see how it compares with the 180 gr AB.
I would also like to see it a few more calibers...such as 257 (110 or 115 gr), 338 (200 or 215 gr), 9.3 (250 gr) and 375 (260gr).
