Modern Sporter builds Q&A

I believe its called G96 gun treatment but maybe ATRS can clarify.
I dont have the can in front of me.
They have gun oil and gun treatment I believe.

But I can always remember that smell, smells so damn good.
 
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They have mentioned a couple of times they used G96 to get that rich black look.
My uppers came bare with no oil and looked dull in comparison to my lower so I soaked them in G96. Matches perfectly now.
I had a similar dull look on my Odin handguard so I gave it the same G96 treatment and now seems to be nearly identical. I think you will always have a variation in anodized color depending on who does it but this was close enough for me.
You can maybe try that but if you are going Cerakote anyways maybe don't bother as all the oil will have to be cleaned off.

Coolio.. I was curious as to why the tone of the coating was slightly different between upper and lower. It all makes sense now!

The anodizing will vary depending on who is doing the anodizing and how they achieve "black", because in the world of anodizing there actually ISN'T a real black. They achieve what we consider to be black by going to the darkest blue that they can. I forget the other colour they can take extremely dark to immitate black, we saw the variations when we experimented with different anodizers. After anodizing the material often appears 'dry' and coating it in a light oil (such as G96 gun treatment) can really enhance the look.

We coated all the lowers as they came back from anodizing with G96, and then found a number of guys who were looking to get them coated. You cannot apply cerakote, duracote, etc. on top of an oil residue. So when shipping the uppers, we opted not to oil them.

Oiling the maple ridge handguards helps, but it doesn't give you a perfect match because their anodizer isn't using the same dye recipe as our anodizer.

The only way to achieve a completely uniform colour between parts is to cerakote the upper, lower, and handguard, and to do it at the same time. Several manufacturers are close enough in their colours that you'd have a really hard time telling them apart though.
 
Oiling the maple ridge handguards helps, but it doesn't give you a perfect match because their anodizer isn't using the same dye recipe as our anodizer.

The only way to achieve a completely uniform colour between parts is to cerakote the upper, lower, and handguard, and to do it at the same time. Several manufacturers are close enough in their colours that you'd have a really hard time telling them apart though.

How involved is that to have done, Shaun? Major pain?
 
How involved is that to have done, Shaun? Major pain?

before assembly, not too bad. I meant to get to your email about this today, I was actually just thinking of it on the way home. I'll get back to you tomorrow on the pricing, but to cerakote the handguard alone won't necessarily give it the same black, it'll appear as a different texture. to make it uniform i'd recommend doing the whole set.
 
Hey just seeing if someone could help me out with handguard options. I have a bsf cf barrel with an od of .875 and the superlative clamp on gas block with the od of 1.616. Has anyone ran anything similar and what handguard did you use. Having a hard time finding a pile of options that clear
 
Hey just seeing if someone could help me out with handguard options. I have a bsf cf barrel with an od of .875 and the superlative clamp on gas block with the od of 1.616. Has anyone ran anything similar and what handguard did you use. Having a hard time finding a pile of options that clear

Jp will clear.
 
Coolio.. I was curious as to why the tone of the coating was slightly different between upper and lower. It all makes sense now!

Upper and lower are both 7076 aluminum and when oiled should be as close to identical in color as possible. Slight variations in temperature when the part is being anodizied along with the concentration of die in the tank makes it impossible to have uppers and lowers 100% the same unless all done at the same time. The guys we use I think did a great job given the 4 to 5 month timeframe between doing the lower versus the uppers.
The MRA handguards are made of 6061 aluminum IIRC which takes a slightly different anodizing technique than 7075 does insofar as current, temp etc in the process.
That coupled with the fact that MRA uses a diffent anodizer than we do would account for the difference in color.
Only 1 way to prevent this. Anodize the upper and lower in the same batch and get the same anodizer to do all parts. This is NOT practical however.
As Shaun points out CeraKote applied to all parts at the same time will make a 100% color match.
 
Hey just seeing if someone could help me out with handguard options. I have a bsf cf barrel with an od of .875 and the superlative clamp on gas block with the od of 1.616. Has anyone ran anything similar and what handguard did you use. Having a hard time finding a pile of options that clear

I'm using the Superlative adjustable clamp on block for my 0.936 gas journal, and the Aero Precision Enhanced Gen 2 handguard works with it.
 
So you have a mod that allows use of a standard rear take down pin in place of the rear cross bar? I am a little perplexed what the benefit is given that the design requires the upper to move forwards so that the BCG can clear the lower's buffer threads.
Does having a sliding rear takedown pin really give you that extra little bit of wiggle room to clear it he upper's rear lug from the trigger pack guys are having trouble with?

It does make installing the upper onto the lower with certain triggers a little less of a hassle.
 
If you can lend us a mag for a couple of weeks we can address this I believe. We have about 50 different mags here, but not 1 of those to try, and every one we tried worked or we would have changed things till it did. NOW would be the best time as we are just switching over the mills to start to run F/A uppers.

We ARE going back to the standard size ejection port dimensions from the big bore port dimensions we ran in the SS uppers, just so you are aware.

Not to stir the pot here but I called in to ATRS on Feb 11 to let them know that my IMI mags (Gen 1, basically the 30 round body version of the IMI Beo ones) did not seat easily nor drop free. My metal mags work fine as does my one PMAG. A little filing on the front of the IMI mags makes them run problem free, so I'm not complaining, but there does seem to be an issue with the overhang of the upper receiver. Still happy with mine.
 
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