Yes, it is a question and answer thread, however that does not mean your question is impervious to criticism. If you want to play ignorant in this legal "grey" area, prepare to pay the price, which believe me you dont want to pay, people are just looking out for you dude, the rcmp banned ruger 10 22 mags for f#ck sakes imagine what theyd do if they found your little project.
Modern Sporter builds Q&A
- Thread starter alberta tactical rifle
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Think ahead about media ramifications and potential issue that could arise for other gun owners. There are other people in this country and other ways to get what you want without jeopardizing the rest of us with selfish wants. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
"Under the Firearms Act, all restricted and prohibited firearms must be registered." This is verbatim from the Firearms Act. How this is a "grey" area is beyond me, if you put a restricted length upper onto a non restricted (unregistered) lower, you now have an unregistered restricted firearm in your hands, now keeping that in mind read that quote from the Firearms Act again...
- Location
- Victoria, BC
I agree with this, but my statement was about people who would actually notify the CFO. Obviously that is the lawful and right thing to do, but it also draws attention to the fact that these modern designs are so easily convertible. I I would suggest that most people who are anti gun have no idea how modular and easy it is to convert the barrel length on a modern sporting rifle. Why make it easy for them to find out? They're just going to use that information against us. And I think it's a pretty fair bet that if people calling the CFO with any regularity to move their firearms between restricted and non-restricted status is going to become an issue for the CFO, and that will filter up to their masters, and down to street level law enforcement. My two cents is if you want to build something restricted, build it restricted. If you want to get something non-restricted and convert it, you're not doing our sport any favors. It doesn't really do you any good anyway, because you're paying almost triple for a receiver set which you would have to register anyway. Just buy a cheap AR, register that, and switch barrels on that at your convenience.
More on the TriggerTech adaptive trigger compatibility issues:
- regardless of if you go to a KNS takedown pin or removable rear takedown pin you'll need to file down the back of the adjustment screw housing because you still won't have enough clearance due to the BCG sticking out the back of the upper. See pictures:
As you can see, it's very close. So much so that I think I will take a file to the back of it as it doesn't look like you need to remove much.
- regardless of if you go to a KNS takedown pin or removable rear takedown pin you'll need to file down the back of the adjustment screw housing because you still won't have enough clearance due to the BCG sticking out the back of the upper. See pictures:
As you can see, it's very close. So much so that I think I will take a file to the back of it as it doesn't look like you need to remove much.
That’s how I got the Geiselle HSNM to fit in there. I had to take the rear pin out,,as well..
But it was still to tight to function correctly.
I think the bottom of that hook is causing issues as well.
Some material may need to be removed from it as well.
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SuperDeadlyAccountant
Regular
- Location
- Niagara Region, ON
Looks really close.
At least it looks like only a small amount of filing is needed. I haven't seen anyone else with this issue so maybe manufacturing tolerances just stacked against you in this regard?
Don't think it was bad luck, no one else has posted a working building with a triggertech adaptable.
There's been a couple others that have tried with the TriggerTech adaptable and ran into the first roadblock, which was getting the rear lug on the upper past the fixed rear takedown pin. I'm just pointing out there's another roadblock past that.
SuperDeadlyAccountant
Regular
- Location
- Niagara Region, ON
Hmm, that's unfortunate cuz I have an Adaptive I was planning on using in this build. Oh well, doesn't look like much will need to be filed down anyways once you get KNS pins.
Yes you could. Any chance someone in LE is at the same range and may know just enough about the law to be dangerous? I KNOW from experience that legal matters are NOT cheap to resolve and that ANY firearms related charges can screw you life when it comes to international borders.
Someone mentioned us being our own worst enemy, which is 110% true. Between a spat between gun shops we have the Swiss Arms debacle. With all of the banter regarding Beowulf mags, they now need to be neutered to 2 rounds. Ruger had to push the envelope with the POS Charger pistol which screwed us all over for mags that have been legal for 40 years and that I would hazard have made many thousands of us criminals as I know damned few guys have surrendered them as we are supposed to.
Shaun, no offence, but are you a lawyer who specializes in firearms law? Do you intend to cover someones legal defence should they pursue this "grey area"? Or does that fall onto the shops owner?
Guys do you not think that the RCMP is salivating for test cases to push their agenda of gun control further and are we not waving the bait for them to take a bite at?
There are PLENTY of cheap AR receiver sets available and I suspect more to come as more of the NR wannabee sets get out. Why not simply leave a sleeping dog or in this case, fed, sleep?
NOTHING is truly illegal, until you get caught. Not that long ago a fellow making Sten guns in his basement got ratted out for shooting them "legally" at the range, or so he thought. The problem was the configuration he made was only legal to own "in parts" as once assembled it was a select fire gun, therefore prohibited.
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ThatM305Guy
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- North Texas
Same with the k2
Lobster_pot
CGN frequent flyer
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- On the shores of the Bay of Fundy
My set came the other day. It’s the first time I’ve encountered this problem. Maybe it’s already been covered in the other threads and I missed it. I did a bunch of looking though. Not my first build and the parts I’ve tried have been used in other builds except one tube I bought brand new for this build.
I’ve tried 3 adjustable milspec buffer tubes and none will thread all the way into my lower. 2 go less than a full turn. 1 goes a couple turns. However my A1stock buffer tube threads in no problem and so does the tube for my magpul ubr.
I’ve tried 3 adjustable milspec buffer tubes and none will thread all the way into my lower. 2 go less than a full turn. 1 goes a couple turns. However my A1stock buffer tube threads in no problem and so does the tube for my magpul ubr.
Look carefully at all the threads on your tube. Make sure they are all perfectly sharp and straight, there is more than likely a ding (or more) in there somewhere. They easily get dinged up at the factory by bumping into other tubes and what not. The collar on the rifle tubes kinda protect the threads from getting digned up.
Lobster_pot
CGN frequent flyer
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- On the shores of the Bay of Fundy
I checked all 3 tubes over. 1 was brand new in plastic packaging. Threads look perfect and sharp. The other 2 tubes have been used multiple times and always worked ok. The UBR tube and A1 tube screwed right in no problem. Other tubes bind
