Modern varmint vs bushmaster acr ?

Firas said:
I'm curious about what getting rid of the quick detach barrel option would do? Remove some weight?

I'm slowly being convinced that an ACR is going to be my .223 NR platform...
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A guy on the ACR forum is making non QD trunions for the ACR :) They are lighter as well.

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DILLIGAF said:
RPM's hand guard is also lighter than the Plastic malpul one and way slimmer. His hand guard was one of the big reasons I kept my ACR. and everyone that shoots my ACR are blown away buy how much nicer it feels with a few simple upgrades.

I handled a DMR version and I wanted to cry... That rifle is totally off balance and is pretty much a bench only rifle.

Once Im done my 102 build. Ill be looking at getting a custom lightweight barrel for my ACR and getting rid of the quick detach barrel option.
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How would the DMR version balance without that horrid railed handguard and with an extended RPM handguard?
 
Epoxy7 said:
How would the DMR version balance without that horrid railed handguard and with an extended RPM handguard?
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Not very good, that DMR barrel is quite heavy compared to my Herron arms conversion. The DMR had RPM'S hand guard on it.

That PRS stock is super heavy as well.
 
Brianma65 said:
Anyway,lets move on and get back on track,shall we?

So , OP, have you decided yet?
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Well after reading the comments and getting more info from this thread I've decided I'd rather keep my mv. Atrs was pretty excellent to deal with when I bought the rifle. And I have no doubt they would help me out if I needed it. I must say I am proud to own this Canadian made rifle :) though I'm still eyeing that acr and really like everything I'm hearing about it.
 
Battleworn said:
Well after reading the comments and getting more info from this thread I've decided I'd rather keep my mv. Atrs was pretty excellent to deal with when I bought the rifle. And I have no doubt they would help me out if I needed it. I must say I am proud to own this Canadian made rifle :) though I'm still eyeing that acr and really like everything I'm hearing about it.
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I think that's a good choice,
Seeing as how these two are at the top of the list,you can't go wrong with either.
I personally think the MV,has the edge,based on weight , appearance.

I'm not concerned with cal changes or the other things.

As for accuracy,reliability,which is my main concern, well,I'll soon find out:)
Those are deal breakers for me.
 
Battleworn said:
Well after reading the comments and getting more info from this thread I've decided I'd rather keep my mv. Atrs was pretty excellent to deal with when I bought the rifle. And I have no doubt they would help me out if I needed it. I must say I am proud to own this Canadian made rifle :) though I'm still eyeing that acr and really like everything I'm hearing about it.
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Keep your eye out on EE ive snagged 2 NR ACR'S for cheap. One at 1750 3 years back and one this summer for 1800... :) At those prices it well worth it and you can upgrade everything and still be under what they cost new.
 
DILLIGAF said:
Keep your eye out on EE ive snagged 2 NR ACR'S for cheap. One at 1750 3 years back and one this summer for 1800... :) At those prices it well worth it and you can upgrade everything and still be under what they cost new.
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Sure will keep my eyes pealed for one. Seems like I really good rifle and simple to maintain. Next year hopefully:)
 
Bombsquad68 said:
Sorry to hear that.

They need a small business consultant to come in and fix this. Eliminate this whole "built to order" model because it's clearly not working with 12 month lead times. Pick just two versions of each gun, a lightweight and target model for the MV and MH. Stock the parts, build the guns, put them on the shelf and lower the price because you just saved money via economies of scale. If people want to change barrels or whatever the hell, let the aftermarket handle it.

People want to support Canadian businesses, they're just making it incredibly hard to do.
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How do you figure that it's not working? They have a lineup of people wanting their rifles who hove no problem paying the deposit and waiting patiently for their rifle to be built just the way they want it. It may not work for you but it appears to be working for most people.
 
Battleworn said:
Well after reading the comments and getting more info from this thread I've decided I'd rather keep my mv. Atrs was pretty excellent to deal with when I bought the rifle. And I have no doubt they would help me out if I needed it. I must say I am proud to own this Canadian made rifle :) though I'm still eyeing that acr and really like everything I'm hearing about it.
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Well put. I'll X2 on this statement. This country needs more Proudly Made in Canada. Likewise we need more people who are proud to own and support Made in Canada. Yes sometimes Made in Canada costs a bit more but I'm a firm believer in "what goes around comes around". You made the right decision to keep it.
 
I support Canadian manufacturers

I have ATRS rings on my rifles and use their mags, I also have Cadex, S&J, TacOrd , RPM, Solely Canadian and Ferro Concept. (im sure im forgetting a few ) I would love to own a MV but it doesn't fit my needs unfortunately. Would be a shame to beat the crap of a MV during training.
 
DILLIGAF said:
I support Canadian manufacturers

I have ATRS rings on my rifles and use their mags, I also have Cadex, S&J, TacOrd , RPM, Solely Canadian and Ferro Concept. (im sure im forgetting a few ) I would love to own a MV but it doesn't fit my needs unfortunately. Would be a shame to beat the crap of a MV during training.
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Why ,is the ACR that much tougher?
 
DILLIGAF said:
I support Canadian manufacturers

I have ATRS rings on my rifles and use their mags, I also have Cadex, S&J, TacOrd , RPM, Solely Canadian and Ferro Concept. (im sure im forgetting a few ) I would love to own a MV but it doesn't fit my needs unfortunately. Would be a shame to beat the crap of a MV during training.
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it would be a shame to beat it up in a way. But I'm sure as hell theres a lot of guys that would like to see how much abuse the rifle can take. It's a similar platform as the ar bust is it just as "reliable"
 
onetwentyish said:
I think he means it would be a shame to be so hard on such fine craftsmanship.
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Yup. Training isnt show and tell. No one cares what rifle you have as long as it shoots and provides good cover fire. Heck one of the most squared away student at the last course ran his Cz858 like a boss. And me with all my high speed low drag crap couldn't keep up.

Brianma65 said:
Why ,is the ACR that much tougher?
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Well as I stated before I run cheap steel case 556. not something I would want to run in a custom gun. My ACR and my X95 run cheap ammo and dont care what I feed them.
 
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DILLIGAF said:
Yup. Training isnt show and tell. No one cares what rifle you have as long as it shoots and provides good cover fire.



Well as I stated before I run cheap steel case 556. not something I would want to run in a cuatom gun.
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You’re on a roll today buddy! Another quoted for truth!
Although with the after market parts on your ACR, it might as well be a custom gun!
 
Battleworn said:
it would be a shame to beat it up in a way. But I'm sure as hell theres a lot of guys that would like to see how much abuse the rifle can take. It's a similar platform as the ar bust is it just as "reliable"
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I have full confidence that it can perform as good as any AR configured to the same spec. (Lilja or proof barrels, Timney trigger, JP SCS).

Its easy to forget that the only non-AR parts are the upper and lower, and charging handle.
 
Not sure what your training for, but wouldn't you want to train with the same equipment,that you're gonna use in the real deal?

ACR/MV/ Kinda like range toys/ hunting rifles? No?

Maybe I got it all wrong,but I'd take a $700 S&W,AR (if NR). over both of these rifles.

Oh, by the way,I'm having a couple of whiskeys, kinda celebrating/ wallowing my new gun.
If this makes no sense:)
 
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