Modern VARMINTER .... ?

If you want a 30 cal buy the modern hunter. Pretty simple in my eyes. You won't catch me dumping mag after mag of steel cased, crap ammo through a high end semi auto.
To each their own, I guess...
 
alberta tactical rifle said:
It seems everyone figures that they need to spend $5k for a Modern hunter. I too have no clue where all this mis-information keeps coming from.
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It's because the options add up fast. That thing looks pretty sweet. But yeah, you add tax you and your at $4000. Stick on a decent handgaurd with rails, an ambi-dexterous mag release, muzzle break, and a few mags, and your up another $600-700. Then human nature rounds number to the next thousand, and your at $5000. I priced out mine and it was $4600-4800 with tax. After I see some reviews, I'm probably going to submit an order. Still cheaper than the custom LRB M25 I have in the works.
 
alberta tactical rifle said:
Not likely, at least as a factory offering. You are the first to even raise this. Demand like with all things must be there to create the end product.
Not sure as i have not bothered to pay attention, but does the 450 not just use a regular AR mag?
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Remington makes the mag, it will seat in a regular AR mag well but it's design is its own and will not hold 223. Remington 30 AR also uses its own mag but again will not feed or hold 223.
 
onetwentyish said:
.300BLK. Just needs a barrel. ;)
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I'd rather 7.62x39. But you cant really compare either of those to a 450 Bushmaster or 30AR in the same platform. It gives the AR the capability to take large game in a light platform.

Hopefully ATRS sees the large Canadian market potential and at least designs it around user customization.... even if they just made the bolts available, people could source their own barrels.
 
Brian46 said:
I'd rather 7.62x39. But you cant really compare either of those to a 450 Bushmaster or 30AR in the same platform. It gives the AR the capability to take large game in a light platform.

Hopefully ATRS sees the large Canadian market potential and at least designs it around user customization.... even if they just made the bolts available, people could source their own barrels.
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ATRS already stated that they won't do 7.62x39 because of the warrenty issues that will arise due to people running cheap surplus through the rifles
 
mrbeil said:
ATRS already stated that they won't do 7.62x39 because of the warrenty issues that will arise due to people running cheap surplus through the rifles
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same could be said for 300blk in a NR barrel.....

However if ATRS only provided the different bolts and people did their own conversions after the fact like I suggested above, there is no warranty anymore from the manufacturer.

It would be like me taking an ACR back to bushmaster after I did my 450 conversion and asking for warranty, they have no obligation to help me in any way.
 
Brian46 said:
same could be said for 300blk in a NR barrel.....

However if ATRS only provided the different bolts and people did their own conversions after the fact like I suggested above, there is no warranty anymore from the manufacturer.

It would be like me taking an ACR back to bushmaster after I did my 450 conversion and asking for warranty, they have no obligation to help me in any way.
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No but it's still their name on the rifle. Why add a risk factor of it going wrong and the company looking bad.
 
ShawnC6 said:
No but it's still their name on the rifle. Why add a risk factor of it going wrong and the company looking bad.
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Unless they make the parts proprietary and patent them all themselves, how will they prevent people from doing their own conversions?

Again, I will use the ACR as an example, I have 7.62x39 and 450 Bushmaster conversions along with Remington 30 AR currently in the works. None of the parts enabling the conversions were from Bushmaster and it was still possible for a moron like myself to get it done.

Now what risk factor is there to Bushmaster in all this? I don't see any so please enlighten me as how they would look bad if something went wrong with what I did to their rifle.

If anything, I know first hand that my conversions are responsible for a number of ACR sales and conversions which is only good for business.
 
Brian46 said:
Unless they make the parts proprietary and patent them all themselves, how will they prevent people from doing their own conversions?

Again, I will use the ACR as an example, I have 7.62x39 and 450 Bushmaster conversions along with Remington 30 AR currently in the works. None of the parts enabling the conversions were from Bushmaster and it was still possible for a moron like myself to get it done.

Now what risk factor is there to Bushmaster in all this? I don't see any so please enlighten me as how they would look bad if something went wrong with what I did to their rifle.

If anything, I know first hand that my conversions are responsible for a number of ACR sales and conversions which is only good for business.
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I'm certain Rick would wash his hands of the sale of a MV with any of these mods being done, warranty wise. And liability wise.

But, feel free to paint your car any color you like.
 
6MT said:
I'm certain Rick would wash his hands of the sale of a MV with any of these mods being done, warranty wise. And liability wise.

But, feel free to paint your car any color you like.
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It's a non issue really, I can't see anyone asking for warranty or trying to claim liability on something they had modified after purchase.

Even if they did, there is no legal recourse/ground to stand on.
 
Didn't say it was possible to stop people, I said why would they want to do part of it themselves. Especially when they can't even keep up with current demand.
 
The Bolt is frum an Ar 15 I think so it's a simple swap the barrel is from a ar as well
A light MV in 450 bushmaster and a 223 would be sweet hunting rig
 
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