Who’s pets are you hunting?
When I’m hunting pets, I like to be real real quiet.
Like blowgun quiet.
But those are prohibited in Canada. At least the assault style ones are.
So I go match 22lr
moose-bear calibre?
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When I’m hunting pets, I like to be real real quiet.
Like blowgun quiet.
But those are prohibited in Canada. At least the assault style ones are.
So I go match 22lr
Agreed -- magnum is just a word, and the meaning has changed over time. But if you're asking my take on it, I'd say once muzzle velocity is 2700 fps for a bullet with a sectional density of 0.240 or better, I'm done. Maybe a bit faster and less SD for antelope, or smaller critters I expect to be shooting at longer ranges. And I was plenty happy with 2150 fps for elephant using heavy FMJ solids. But for everything I shoot now, a 168 Barnes TSX launched at 2775 fps kills absolutely everything. And everything is a long list. Lion, leopard, cougar, moose, elk, whitetail, mulies, black bear, grizzly, eland, bushbuck, impala, waterbuck, warthog, klipspringer, springbok, blesbok, caracal, nyala, zebra, black wildebeest, blue wildebeest, ostrich, and on and on an on. Please understand that's not coming from a place of "hey, I've shot all those things". Rather it's coming from a place where I've learned over time that ballistic masturbation is meaningless in the hunting field. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, counts as much as actually being able to hunt and to place a reasonable bullet at a reasonable velocity into a reasonable spot. It simply does not matter if you're shooting the latest and greatest wundercartridge. It doesn't. I myself learned the hard way that if you really want to become a good game shot and bag a ton of critters, you start by purchasing a decent scope, put it on a .308 Winchester, and put all your money into as many crates of surplus ammo as you can afford. Wear out that gun and replace the barrel. Then do it again. Then when you settle on your hunting rig and have some find tuned handholds for it, there will be no stopping you. But that approach to shooting and hunting doesn't sell much product, so you seldom see it being promoted.
There’s nothing like shooting ammo up by the pail in field positions; esp off-hand; then going back day after day and doing it again. There soon comes a point where the crosshair oscillations seem to have shifted to slow motion and trigger control is as natural as breathing. Its a magical feeling.
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Shooting a bear with anything less than a 458 WinMag is just inhumane.
From that list... on January 11, 2006, I would have said that I prefer .35 caliber cartridges for bears... on December 10, 2024, I still prefer .35 caliber cartridges for bears... not that the others don't work equally well. As for .458's on bears, I have used several on many bears... .45-70, .45-90, .45-110, .450 Marlin and even .458 WM, and .458 Lott. On bears, I like big chunks of lead moving at whatever speed the cartridge produces, perhaps dumbed-down a smidgen in the bigger ones.
Any of these:
Left to right:
.30-06 Sprfld
.300 Winchester Mag
.300 Weatherby Mag
.35 Whelen
9.3x62mm
.375 H&H Mag
Some of these are more equal than others. A lot of folks will shoot the '06 better than the others, and that Terminal Ascent 175 is a great match for it. The .300 Magnums are great open country cartridges. The .35 and 9.3 are big sticks with stout but not brutal recoil. The .375 gives near .30-06 trajectories but man, does it hammer. Also, it's a tick over 8 pounds, so that's hammering at both ends.
Left to right:
.30-06 Sprfld
.300 Winchester Mag
.300 Weatherby Mag
.35 Whelen
9.3x62mm
.375 H&H Mag
Some of these are more equal than others. A lot of folks will shoot the '06 better than the others, and that Terminal Ascent 175 is a great match for it. The .300 Magnums are great open country cartridges. The .35 and 9.3 are big sticks with stout but not brutal recoil. The .375 gives near .30-06 trajectories but man, does it hammer. Also, it's a tick over 8 pounds, so that's hammering at both ends.
Any of these:
Left to right:
.30-06 Sprfld
.300 Winchester Mag
.300 Weatherby Mag
.35 Whelen
9.3x62mm
.375 H&H Mag
Some of these are more equal than others. A lot of folks will shoot the '06 better than the others, and that Terminal Ascent 175 is a great match for it. The .300 Magnums are great open country cartridges. The .35 and 9.3 are big sticks with stout but not brutal recoil. The .375 gives near .30-06 trajectories but man, does it hammer. Also, it's a tick over 8 pounds, so that's hammering at both ends.
Well… I have both #1(30-06) and #3 (300Wby) with access to #6 (375 H&H).. Guess I’m able to cover a few bases off on this Continent
I know a couple guys in Alberta that have used the 50 bmg on game, back before the round of libtard. It certainly worked. - dan
Any of these:
Left to right:
.30-06 Sprfld
.300 Winchester Mag
.300 Weatherby Mag
.35 Whelen
9.3x62mm
.375 H&H Mag
Some of these are more equal than others. A lot of folks will shoot the '06 better than the others, and that Terminal Ascent 175 is a great match for it. The .300 Magnums are great open country cartridges. The .35 and 9.3 are big sticks with stout but not brutal recoil. The .375 gives near .30-06 trajectories but man, does it hammer. Also, it's a tick over 8 pounds, so that's hammering at both ends.
I also have a 270, and I want a 9.3x62 for my big boom stick. Just slowly putting money aside for it. Anything particular you like or dislike about owning one?
Agreed. It reminds me of a guy in Saskatchewan who once shot out the barrel of a CZ 375H&H doing that exact thing. Some crazy bugger named Mike as I recall
30-06 is great for black bear. I’ve never taken a moose.
I don’t think any more power is needed.
The extra velocity of a 300mag is great for range, but completely unnecessary at the distances most black bear and moose are shot. Unless you’re hunting black bear at the edge of a mountain range using spot/stalk method instead of baiting.
Sorry to not choose from the above list, but I wouldn’t personally bother with any of the magnums if you’re hunting in the typical ranges at which those 2 beasts are hunted.
I don’t think any more power is needed.
The extra velocity of a 300mag is great for range, but completely unnecessary at the distances most black bear and moose are shot. Unless you’re hunting black bear at the edge of a mountain range using spot/stalk method instead of baiting.
Sorry to not choose from the above list, but I wouldn’t personally bother with any of the magnums if you’re hunting in the typical ranges at which those 2 beasts are hunted.
But, what better way to revive a 19 year old thread and create more controversy for the end of 2024 ?
If my math is correct you where shooting the :06 for 7-8 years when this thread was originally posted
Tight Groups.
**added later** I forgot to add my thoughts about the perfect Big Bear Medicine, my vote would be a .378 Weatherby.
Cause well, you know it is a Weatherby and you can allegedly shoot .375Ouch&Ouch aka Holland&Holland
Rob
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