Moose shot POINT BLANK & runs away!

rral22 said:
So, what do you think of the "buck fever" issue, and how do you overcome it so you can keep your train of thought on the tracks and avoid disasters like the one in the video?
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It happens...Some get it, some don't, and it varies is severity...Some grow out of it, and others never do....Some never admit they get it....I don't know of any therapy for it either...You?

After watching this video a number of times I have discounted buck fever..I think this fella is a very good marksman who tried to put on a show for the camera with a neck shot, who then panicked to the point he froze up when that didn't go as planned.. He was within a couple inches of his mark..Bet he also learned his lesson, as does your hunting partners ....

You ever take a shot you shouldn't have? Ducks/geese a little out of range? Deer on a bad angle, or a snap shot? Low light condition? Anyone who has hunted any length of time has...Some more than others...Those who say no,lie!

Wasn't calling you names just a poke at your holier than thou spiel in post 76...Sorry you took it so hard, was not meant as such..
 
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Lots of time for second shot, to busy trying to find scope.I think he needs to pack in hunting ........ go home and order a pizza.
 
FLHTCUI said:
You bring up an interesting point on running shots and European Game rules.
I think it is Sweden and correct me if I am wrong one has to prove marksmanship when applying for and qualify for.
Yes, one has to qualify to be allowed to hunt...wait for it....Moose.
Something about a running Moose at a known distance and you must get several bullets in the vital zone in order to gain the privilege of hunting a Moose.
There are a lot of assumptions here, like the moose was pushed hard...yes there was a dog on its heels, but was it frothing at the mouth from being tormented to exhaustion?
I didnt see that, but will suggest that some go and look the guys other videos up and see how they do it over there.
Tight Groups and stay thirsty my Amigos.
Rob
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I've read about this several times myself. "The running moose test". The only difference is, I thought it was Finland.
 
Something like that happened to me, but it was around 150+ Yards and i over estimatied the shot, aimed higher, shot, the moose dropped. It got up and i started shooting agian, but since i was aiming high i was missing all the shots. There was a good amount of blood trail i found and went after it for apporx 2kms max, the blood trail stopped and i gave up. Must have been a hump shot.
 
captonion said:
It happens...Some get it, some don't, and it varies is severity...Some grow out of it, and others never do....Some never admit they get it....I don't know of any therapy for it either...You?

After watching this video a number of times I have discounted buck fever..I think this fella is a very good marksman who tried to put on a show for the camera with a neck shot, who then panicked to the point he froze up when that didn't go as planned.. He was within a couple inches of his mark..Bet he also learned his lesson, as does your hunting partners do....

You ever take a shot you shouldn't have? Ducks/geese a little out of range? Deer on a bad angle, or a snap shot? Low light condition? Anyone who has hunted any length of time has...Some more than others...Those who say no,lie!

Wasn't calling you names just a poke at your holier than thou spiel in post 76...Sorry you took it so hard, was not meant as such..
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I already said everyone makes a bad shot occasionally. Bad shots are not the problem, and are, if you hunt long enough, inevitable. A bad shot is a mistake. Panic and losing your mind is something else entirely. The discussion should not be allowed to go after the red herring of bad shots. If, however, you are making bad shots because you can't think clearly, then not thinking clearly is the real issue that must be addressed. I "take it hard" because it is a hard issue.

I'm not concerned about mistakes; I'm concerned about someone who "panicked to the point he froze up", or someone who's "train of thought goes out the window". Mistakes are one thing. Buck fever (as many call it) meaning the inability to think straight in the presence of game is not trivial. It creates a dangerous situation that must be recognized and prevented. It is proof of hunter incompetence, actually, which is why I won't hunt with people who can't learn to control it. And rest assured, there are LOTS of hunters who do NOT panic, or freeze up, or stop thinking just because they see some game. LOTS.

Police, fire/rescue, ambulance personnel, military, ER doctors, nurses, S.A.R., or anyone who deals with emergency situations (and they deal with REAL emergencies, not just the excitement of hunting) all must learn to never panic or stop thinking clearly, or they are judged incompetent. Surely the mere presence of a moose should not be a legitimate reason to lose your mind. Training, planning, and experience are the keys, and anyone who thinks losing your mind is OK because a moose is nearby, should get more of all three. Soon. Before something tragic happens. A gun is not something to be operated by someone who can't think because suddenly it's actually time to use it, any more than you would allow a police officer to excuse random shots because he was excited.

I have been working with fire/rescue and as an EMT with our ambulance service for 30 years. Panic and freezing up are not allowed. I have been hunting for over 50 years. Lots of dead things of every type in that time, and some seriously bad shots on occasion, but panic was never the cause.

I think the topic of this thread is important. People who carry guns around should be concerned about it, not just tossing it off as "holier than thou" B.S. When non-hunters see that video, it makes us all look like idiots who shouldn't be allowed to carry guns, especially if we defend that sort of action as just "normal" for hunters.
 
captonion said:
Where can I get the rest of your book?
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What? Never actually read anything that long before?

Having trouble thinking clearly under pressure?

No intention of actually trying to address the issues? Just "witty" put downs. Too bad. It's a real issue, and seems to be one you obviously can't address.
 
I did mention that I discounted buck fever yet you are still banging on about it...As I said, he made a mistake as do many of us ,the only difference being, there was a camera present...Lesson learned, bet he won't be doing that again...

Not sure why you felt the need to let us know that you are a fireman, and what that had to do with any of this, AT ALL, but entertaining none the less...
 
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I agree with most, the shot was high and likely not fatal. Hope the dog kept doing a bang up job and ran that moose by another hunter.

IMHO the boiler room is the place to aim. I have not shot 50 moose, or 30 but I have learned that while they are very large, moose are not that tough and if you put one in the boiler room they will lay down relatively close to where they were standing when they were hit. Oh, and the heart/lung area is also the biggest target!
 
captonion said:
I did mention that I discounted buck fever yet you are still banging on about it...As I said, he made a mistake as do many of us ,the only difference being, there was a camera present...Lesson learned, bet he won't be doing that again...

Not sure what letting be known you being a fireman had to do with any of this AT ALL, but entertaining none the less...
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he sounds like "firehall ninja".
 
captonion said:
I did mention that I discounted buck fever yet you are still banging on about it...As I said, he made a mistake as do many of us ,the only difference being, there was a camera present...Lesson learned, bet he won't be doing that again...

Not sure what letting be known you being a fireman had to do with any of this AT ALL, but entertaining none the less...
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That is the biggest issue - the guy posted it on the net for the world to see.

And although the previous posters comments relating to other lines of work are appeals to irrelevant authority, the premise of the original post was to discuss our thoughts.

I feel this guy had ample time to put the Moose out of it's misery - even with buck fever and mental lapses. Most of my older hunting companions were great mentors, and set me up so that if I ended up in a marginal situation I would feel confident to resolve it (eg. shoot again). When I take new folks out, the whole point is to get them some controlled situations where this sort of outcome can be mitigated.

I do know that any of the folks I hunt with (and those that mentored me) would not be the types to 1. post this on the net or 2. lack the respect for the animal to not want to at least try to put another round in it while it was flopping there.

just my opinion.
 
jaydog said:
Couple things- the dog is a Norwegian elkhound and are used specifically for hunting moose. It did what its supposed to (bring the moose to you or get it to stand still so you can catch up and shoot it) and if you listen at that end the language sure sounds Scandanavian.
Shot was in the hump which will flatten a moose like that and can actually be a great shot IF you hit one of the tiny spurs off the spine. In this case I'm betting he had the misfortune of having the bullet pass between them (and at that distance likely not having a chance to open up) so the animal ended up with a rather minimal wound.
While this would be a complete mess here in Canada, the dog will bay up that moose again shortly and I'd be surprised if it's life isn't ended by another bullet off camera.
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Been told it's a great way to stop them from running after a boiler room shot(gives enough time for them to bleed out). Seeing that video I believe it.
 
I question whether some of you have actually hunted before?

He had a moose run right at him then veer suddenly and shot it what, 4 meters? Thats not an easy shot to make under any circumstance, let alone through a scope. He then had a dog in the picture, as well as bedrock under the moose as it was struggling. Is he going to risk a ricochet into him, the cameraman, or the dog?

My god some of you are harsh. Armchair experts whom have never made a mistake and never will. I hope when something doesnt go absolutely perfect for you some arsehole treats you like dirt and tells you to go eat potato chips instead of hunting.

Hunting isnt perfect. Never was, never will be. $hit will happen to each and every hunter at some point.
 
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