Moose shot POINT BLANK & runs away!

blasted_saber said:
I question whether some of you have actually hunted before?

He had a moose run right at him then veer suddenly and shot it what, 4 meters? Thats not an easy shot to make under any circumstance, let alone through a scope. He then had a dog in the picture, as well as bedrock under the moose as it was struggling. Is he going to risk a ricochet into him, the cameraman, or the dog?

My god some of you are harsh. Armchair experts whom have never made a mistake and never will. I hope when something doesnt go absolutely perfect for you some arsehole treats you like dirt and tells you to go eat potato chips instead of hunting.

Hunting isnt perfect. Never was, never will be. $hit will happen to each and every hunter at some point.
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I have made mistakes - and have had to deal with them. To suggest that because we don't have a "sh!t happens" attitude that we have never hunted is naive at best.

I can recall every single "screw up" much easier than any "perfect shot".

Lost animals haunt me - so much so that I am ashamed by my contribution. I certainly would never post it on the web. And I never really have a "oh well, it happens in hunting" attitude. I don't need "some other arsehole to treat me like dirt" - I am the harshest critic of my own actions.

Lets just hope that most guys who have these sorts of experiences learn from them.
 
why is there so much bickering about this? it's not like there are many details we don't know thanks to the video...

-bad shot on moose
-moose is stunned and falls
-hunter had a huge opportunity to shoot the moose again, but he didn't
-moose was probably tracked down and killed

i could care less what they were doing or what equipment they were using before the moose was on the ground. all i know is no matter how you slice it there was ZERO excuses for the hunter not finishing off the moose when it was on the ground.


EDIT : just before the moose got up it appears that he had a full 6-7 seconds for a clear shot at the head when it wasn't moving much...
 
Dogleg said:
Looks like he got tangled up in his scope, dog and I'll bet some learned habit of preserveing meat at all costs. Theres a time to abandon the sights and just look over the scope or even from the hip, but if you haven't already thought about it then it isn't going to suddenly occur to you with an elg flopping around.

If you don't take the second shot when there's doubt, sooner or later you will regret it.
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Learned habit of meat preservation - I'm a meat hunter and I'll buy that. I've been lucky, all my big game (deer, moose and caribou) have been bang flops. I've instinctively chambered a new round, ready for the follow up but have never had to.

I have learned a few things from this video - BE VERY READY to make a split second decision, dead may not be so dead and context is everything.

blasted_saber said:
I question whether some of you have actually hunted before?

He had a moose run right at him then veer suddenly and shot it what, 4 meters? Thats not an easy shot to make under any circumstance, let alone through a scope. He then had a dog in the picture, as well as bedrock under the moose as it was struggling. Is he going to risk a ricochet into him, the cameraman, or the dog?

My god some of you are harsh. Armchair experts whom have never made a mistake and never will. I hope when something doesnt go absolutely perfect for you some arsehole treats you like dirt and tells you to go eat potato chips instead of hunting.

Hunting isnt perfect. Never was, never will be. $hit will happen to each and every hunter at some point.
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canadian hunter312 said:
why is there so much bickering about this? it's not like there are many details we don't know thanks to the video...

-bad shot on moose
-moose is stunned and falls
-hunter had a huge opportunity to shoot the moose again, but he didn't
-moose was probably tracked down and killed

i could care less what they were doing or what equipment they were using before the moose was on the ground. all i know is no matter how you slice it there was ZERO excuses for the hunter not finishing off the moose when it was on the ground.


EDIT : just before the moose got up it appears that he had a full 6-7 seconds for a clear shot at the head when it wasn't moving much...
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I think the bedrock under that thin layer of moss is a very valid concern to not take a shot.
 
My 92 year old mother who still lives in her own home in PA could have shot that moose dead while it was struggling on the ground.
What was that guy waiting for? Xmas.
The "spike" bull moose was stunned but not mortally wounded and will be a smarter and more wary animal as a result of the encounter and might grow to be a monarch of the woods.
Spikes are dumb, especially during the rut and a lot of them bite the dust from "fast acting lead poisoning" ;)before their antlers get big enough to palm out.
I've had a spike come out of the woods at the sound of me sounding the horn on my dirt bike.
How dumb is that?
 
blasted_saber said:
I think the bedrock under that thin layer of moss is a very valid concern to not take a shot.
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I agree, along with a few more concerns...The camera man right beside him appears to be between the shooter, and the moose after it hits the ground..He actually has to step back @ the 34-37 sec mark to let the shooter get in position to take a finishing shot...Right then the dog gets in the way, and is so until the moose gets over the ridge...His window of opportunity to take a shot is very short....Good hunter!

UKdave said:
VERY poor and certainly inexperianced shooter.
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Quite the opposite.....He never once seems to get excited in the least(might be a fireman), and the safety of his camera man and dog never leave his train of thought as you can see...Other than the first shot, this guy did everything right..A very safety-conscious hunter...

canadian hunter312 said:
EDIT : just before the moose got up it appears that he had a full 6-7 seconds for a clear shot at the head when it wasn't moving much...
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Thats what I thought until I studied it closer...A second or two at best...
The first 8 seconds or so that it's down it appears to be a done deal...
 
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torontogungal said:
My 92 year old mother who still lives in her own home in PA could have shot that moose dead while it was struggling on the ground.
What was that guy waiting for? Xmas.
The "spike" bull moose was stunned but not mortally wounded and will be a smarter and more wary animal as a result of the encounter and might grow to be a monarch of the woods.
Spikes are dumb, especially during the rut and a lot of them bite the dust from "fast acting lead poisoning" ;)before their antlers get big enough to palm out.
I've had a spike come out of the woods at the sound of me sounding the horn on my dirt bike.
How dumb is that?
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moose are dumb in general a friend of the family was a truck driver he said he's seen them do some real dumb stuff he had one let the cab of the truck go by then run into the trailer. he see one run into a tree and knock it down and last witch may be the dumbest he said he has seen one drown because it for got to come up for air
 
antiqueguy said:
moose are dumb in general a friend of the family was a truck driver he said he's seen them do some real dumb stuff he had one let the cab of the truck go by then run into the trailer. he see one run into a tree and knock it down and last witch may be the dumbest he said he has seen one drown because it for got to come up for air
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How does he know it forgot to come up for air :rolleyes:
 
Another thing to consider is that the moose will probably be sold for meat,hence the neck shot,so opening up on it like some have mentioned isn't practical.

Bullet didn't strike bone in the neck and between flaling legs, bedrock back stop and a dog I'd say the first real safe shot was when the moose was exiting.
 
I had a moose stand up in front of me once at about the same distance as the guy in the video. I made pretty much the same mistake and took a snapshot that struck it in the hump. Probably closer to the spine than this moose, because mine went down and stayed down. Still, a finishing shot was required. It happens.
 
antiqueguy said:
moose are dumb in general a friend of the family was a truck driver he said he's seen them do some real dumb stuff he had one let the cab of the truck go by then run into the trailer. he see one run into a tree and knock it down and last witch may be the dumbest he said he has seen one drown because it for got to come up for air
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After reading this post, I feel like a moose. :p
 
I've subscribed to the theory of "if I can see it, and it's still moving, shoot it again!" Faced with tracking a badly hit moose (which could rage out and kill you and your dog if you're unlucky), i would have taken the running shot when it got up and started to run. Not a big fan of a running shot, but worst case scenario you would miss. I'd take two bad hits on an animal over one bad hit any day.
 
Fall Guy said:
Here: www.liveleak.com/view?i=813_1361617513
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Thanks for that. Looking at the video, it looks to have been a non fatal wound that may have just clipped the upper tip of a neck vertebra. I suspect adrenaline, combined with concern for the dog running back and forth, as well as possibility of ricochet was all racing through his mind at the moment. While desirable at times, SAS like fast reflexes are not a common trait in the average person.
 
I hope the moose died just over the hill.After watching the video he was at risk of shooting the dog, if he had shot the dog by accident most on here would be ready to hang the guy.He shot high,as has been said on here if you cant admit you have missed, you have not been hunting very long,or you have a hell of an ego.
 
W.T.F is this with the moose and bedrock. So if an animal is down and wounded some of you experts are saying you cant shoot it unless it is laying on a safe backstop, give me a break.
 
roba said:
W.T.F is this with the moose and bedrock. So if an animal is down and wounded some of you experts are saying you cant shoot it unless it is laying on a safe backstop, give me a break.
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yeah - and from the half dozen Moose I have shot with controlled expansion bullets (closest 50 yards with a 300 wby - 180 grain Barnes XBT over IMR 7828 @ 3200 fps at the muzzle on my chrony) I have never had a pass through - bullet has always hung up on the hide. But this guy was a "good hunter"

And I have never hunted lol

And the time he had to shoot again - clear of the dog and the cameraman, seems like enough that a regular guy could enrol in telepathy schooling, learn the trade and will the Bull to death.
 
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