I never feel the need to give numbers....You asked I answered...Don't believe, so be it...
That sux
That sux even more...
Moose shot POINT BLANK & runs away!
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I never feel the need to give numbers....You asked I answered...Don't believe, so be it...
That sux
That sux even more...
The kid's got it.
The lesson object of that video was sesame street simple.
If that guy with the gun had a clue what he was doing it would have been moose chops for supper.
The gunman should have shot but he shyt his pants instead and the spike bull got away.
That spike bull was no trophy but he was just the right age to be good eating.
I heard a good one at work today. Some guy was babbling on and on. Another said your rear end is gonna get jealous of your mouth with all that shiite coming out of it. Had a good laugh at that.
I don't know why that came to mind while reading this thread.
I don't know why that came to mind while reading this thread.
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You can't predict how an animals acts or behaves when hit whether it be poorly or fatal.
Many an animal I have seen kick and fuss and flip flop and found to be heart shot and some to have gotten up.
Others have dropped like a sack and not moved then get up and decide to go for a walk and some have dropped dead in their tracks.
End of the day , bad luck Charlie was hunting with the fellow.
Many an animal I have seen kick and fuss and flip flop and found to be heart shot and some to have gotten up.
Others have dropped like a sack and not moved then get up and decide to go for a walk and some have dropped dead in their tracks.
End of the day , bad luck Charlie was hunting with the fellow.
He must have meant he downed 170 beer.
That would make more sense.
Could easily do that in one hot summer.
That's less than 2 per day, what's your point? Is it unbelievable that someone drinks 8 a day or fills that many tags a season?
Most moose I have shot were easy shots and I had full confidence they were dead, even if they ran. "Dead, but don't know it, yet."
I don't fire a second shot because of the risk of making a bad shot.
I recently noticed that after the first shot I don't even stroke the bolt to reload "just in case."
In this case the first shot was not an easy one. I would like to think I would have reloaded and been ready to fire a second shot. But I am not so sure that I would have assumed it was thrashing as it died, and been caught like the guy in the video.
I will try to learn from his experience.
I don't fire a second shot because of the risk of making a bad shot.
I recently noticed that after the first shot I don't even stroke the bolt to reload "just in case."
In this case the first shot was not an easy one. I would like to think I would have reloaded and been ready to fire a second shot. But I am not so sure that I would have assumed it was thrashing as it died, and been caught like the guy in the video.
I will try to learn from his experience.
I always chamber a follow up shot but very seldom need it.
If the moose starts to get up he's getting another and another until he stays down.
I've used our dogs to track moose wounded by others into cedar swamps where they'll find the dirtiest, muckiest. coldest bog hole to immerse themselves in as an attempt to numb the pain and seal their wounds and I have had to help pack the meat out with the ice water up to my waist. I am a 130 pound 5' 5" female.
That's BULL WORK and unnecessary bull work.
Squeezing the trigger one more time is a LOT easier.
I want to dress my moose where I shoot it and not 10 miles up the azzhole of Ontario in some bottomless swamp hole full of loonshyt.
Anybody who thinks there's something heroic about not taking follow-up shots has my permission to knock themselves out.
...Well said, very clear and to the point!!!
Good advice!
Same here, so long as it is safe to shoot...With nobody but you, and the moose there that wouldn't be an issue....With another person/dog between you and the moose, changes everything...Safety first! Can't bring back the bullet after it leaves the barrel..Better a little/alot of extra work, rather than have an injured/dead dog or friend...
A bullet to the vitals would have been a better choice in this scenario....Other than that he did nothing wrong, safety wise. He could have shot safely after the moose broke the ridge...Thats where I would have sent one/two in!
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Sound like the voice of experience here.
And my guess is you haven't lost many Moose....
Nor have I...Never had one go further than 70yds...Only a couple required 2 shots (maybe), and I never shot anyone in the process...Given the choice of potentially loosing an animal, or injuring someone or my dog, I know what I would choose every time...
I did however loose a couple deer..Bothers me yet today..
I was on your side until I reviewed the vid several times...Easy to discount the camera man, and the dog...He didn't!
''YOUR'' ethics tell you ''Dispatch an animal ASAP'' as does mine, but safety trumps ''your ethics'' every time, or it should!
He didn't pay alot of attention in the safety portion of the hunting course..Might want to adress that!
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Just curious how many were your Moose Kills - or the "hunting party".
He had time to add a follow up before there was any issue. Also had a chance when the Moose was back up.
Your opinion. I am unsure in the Alberta Hunter Safety Program where "unsafe backstop" is related to moss laden bedrock while shooting at Moose flailing on the ground at less than 10 steps. Perhaps we should include it as a highly probable area for dangerous ricochets in everyday hunting scenarios based on your experience and testimony....
At any rate, I think this discussion has long since "jumped the shark" - I have had fun - good luck to you (and your hunting party) in the future sir.
All mine! I have hunted with a few different groups, going more than once per season at times in different areas.. We have taken a pile of moose over the years..My best bud (moose hunting partner) has takken 19, hunting moose far less years than myself! He actually filled my tag this fall...
The rock was not a concern to me at all, until blasted_saber pointed it out...The camera man OBVIOUSLY between the moose and the shooter along with the dog was....Can't figure out why you can't figure it out?
I agree wholeheartedly he had his chance when the moose broke the ridge...Up until then no! With the camera man beween him and the moose along with the dog, not a chance!
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I don't make broad statements that encapsulate what anyone or everyone else should or could do under the circumstances.
I can only speak for myself cause I know my own limitations and abilities and the capabilities of my firearm.
I hunt with an old style Remington model 7 (18 1/2" bbl) bolt action in 308 Win that I pillar & glass bedded myself as well as replaced the factory trigger with a custom shop Timney set at 2 pounds. The gun suits my reduced LOP cause of my small size. That gun will produce a 5 shot keyhole group at 100 yards with my own hand load featuring 150 grain Nosler Partition bullets.
Looking at that video FROM MY OWN PERSPECTIVE there are at least 3 clear opportunities where I could have safely put a finishing shot in that thrashing moose.
That moose was a gift as my brother just said who watched the video and who I know is a more skillful hunter/shooter than I am. Not because of his gender but because he has more experience. He's 9 years older.
I can only speak for myself cause I know my own limitations and abilities and the capabilities of my firearm.
I hunt with an old style Remington model 7 (18 1/2" bbl) bolt action in 308 Win that I pillar & glass bedded myself as well as replaced the factory trigger with a custom shop Timney set at 2 pounds. The gun suits my reduced LOP cause of my small size. That gun will produce a 5 shot keyhole group at 100 yards with my own hand load featuring 150 grain Nosler Partition bullets.
Looking at that video FROM MY OWN PERSPECTIVE there are at least 3 clear opportunities where I could have safely put a finishing shot in that thrashing moose.
That moose was a gift as my brother just said who watched the video and who I know is a more skillful hunter/shooter than I am. Not because of his gender but because he has more experience. He's 9 years older.
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Well, as much as I see experience and knowledge coming out in this thread I have to humbly say that you are all wrong.......................
I would have saved the dog and the cameraman by not shooting as this hunter did ,however I would have dispatched the moose quickly , efficiently, painlessly and silently and not have it move another inch by simply giving it my famous rear choke hold and having it peacefully drift off into permanent dream land securing his spot at the big swamp in the sky.
This technique is very effective at damaging minimal meat and not creating bone fragments that get in the way of butchering.
Can't seem to get close enough to antelope so I cannot comment of it's effectiveness on speed goats.
I would have saved the dog and the cameraman by not shooting as this hunter did ,however I would have dispatched the moose quickly , efficiently, painlessly and silently and not have it move another inch by simply giving it my famous rear choke hold and having it peacefully drift off into permanent dream land securing his spot at the big swamp in the sky.
This technique is very effective at damaging minimal meat and not creating bone fragments that get in the way of butchering.
Can't seem to get close enough to antelope so I cannot comment of it's effectiveness on speed goats.
LMAO
or just use a "judo chop"
Oh crap - shouldn't have said that - now we will have to talk about whether the Judo chop or the choke is more appropriate. I think the choke may have it as the dog and Cameraman could be hit with a Judo Chop. Then again the choke is dangerous as the Moose could use the bedrock against you.
