More complicated now to choose a 9 mm

I also find that hard to believe...I am having a hard time thinking of a single trainer that I have heard of who does not recommend Glocks.

I could very readily type out a list of maybe fifty trainers with serious credentials who recommend the Glock.

Could you list off 5000 who do not recommend the Glock? That would be hard to imagine.

I'd have a hard time naming 1 professional instructor who doesn't recomend (or for that matter use) Glock pistols, and I'm familiar with the work of some of the less famous guys in the biz - it's kind of a hobby.
 
I also find that hard to believe...I am having a hard time thinking of a single trainer that I have heard of who does not recommend Glocks.
I could very readily type out a list of maybe fifty trainers with serious credentials who recommend the Glock.

Could you list off 5000 who do not recommend the Glock? That would be hard to imagine.

Yeah - this. I even know trainers who don't particularly like the Glock themselves but still recommend it as a solid and reliable blaster...
 
Unfortunately, less than 1% of professional trainers recommend Glocks.

I don't get it.

Why are you pulling facts out of your ass? Seriously, you have some knowledgeable guys here trying to offer advice based on their experiences and the only thing you can think to do is to fabricate facts?
 
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im not saying the glock trigger cannot be mastered, I am just saying that its like mastering the double action revolver, which

IE, harder, and to no benifit, other then now you can shoot a glock/DA revolver type gun.

if thats the kind of pull you like, by all means buy glock, its not a bad gun,

but like i said, be prepared to have to pull just like a DA revolver...

its not better trigger control, its just different, and harder... harder is not always better... and again, most guns shoot with normal style travel to a clean break, be they rifle, shotgun, or pistol.

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I have a fully tuned, bull barrelled unlimited PPC revolver. It was built by an absolute genius at the double action Smith and Wesson trigger job. It pulls beautifully and constantly at 7lbs - so light it's only guaranteed to work with one brand of primer. A standard Glock trigger has a light (2-3lb) take up, followed by a 5.5lb break. Even the best DA revolver trigger is heavier than a Glock trigger. A factory DA revolver hovers around 12 lbs, they are not comparable.
 
im not saying the glock trigger cannot be mastered, I am just saying that its like mastering the double action revolver, which

IE, harder, and to no benifit, other then now you can shoot a glock/DA revolver type gun.

if thats the kind of pull you like, by all means buy glock, its not a bad gun,

but like i said, be prepared to have to pull just like a DA revolver...

its not better trigger control, its just different, and harder... harder is not always better... and again, most guns shoot with normal style travel to a clean break, be they rifle, shotgun, or pistol.

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You're missing the point and it clearly comes from the fact you've never shot and/or mastered the Glock trigger or any trigger for that matter. The only "DA" part of a Glock trigger is in the first shot when you must remove the slack/take up. After the first round is fired it is no different than any other firearm, release the trigger enough to reset and no more, repeat as necessary. SA triggers as mentioned allow those with poor trigger control to still put out decent performance however, I've witnessed many shooters running an SA gun be it rifle or handgun and they still slap the trigger and completely release the trigger between shots. Not surprisingly, their scores/performance down range reflect this.

TDC
 
A large number of handgun shooters tend to release the trigger fully, not simply SA shooters. For every shooter I've seen "ride the reset" I see about 10 to 15 that release it fully or far more than needed between shots.
 
A large number of handgun shooters tend to release the trigger fully, not simply SA shooters. For every shooter I've seen "ride the reset" I see about 10 to 15 that release it fully or far more than needed between shots.

I agree, I was simply pointing out the fact that many do.

TDC
 
You can do it the easy way or the hard way.

The Hard Way:
Buy a Browning Hi Power, then a Glock 17 Gen 3, then a Sig 226, then a Glock 19 Gen 3, then another Sig 226, then a Nornico 1911, then a Springfield 1911, and then a Glock 17 Gen 2, then an HK P7, then another Sig 226. Then you realize it's you that doesn't know how to shoot, not the fault of the pistols you've used. So then you buy an HK P2000 and really try to learn how to shoot, but then realize that there's pretty much nothing better than a Gen 3 Glock 17, so you buy that.

The Easy Way:
Buy a Glock 17 Gen 3 and learn how to f**king shoot it.

Epic!! So true!
 
After months of research, I got it:

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Oops, it's not a 9 mm ... but I couldn't resist it!
 
You can do it the easy way or the hard way.

The Hard Way:
Buy a Browning Hi Power, then a Glock 17 Gen 3, then a Sig 226, then a Glock 19 Gen 3, then another Sig 226, then a Nornico 1911, then a Springfield 1911, and then a Glock 17 Gen 2, then an HK P7, then another Sig 226. Then you realize it's you that doesn't know how to shoot, not the fault of the pistols you've used. So then you buy an HK P2000 and really try to learn how to shoot, but then realize that there's pretty much nothing better than a Gen 3 Glock 17, so you buy that.

The Easy Way:
Buy a Glock 17 Gen 3 and learn how to f**king shoot it.

I agree a Glock 17 Gen4 (9mm), and if you're really smart a .22LR conversion kit (to save some money while learning, instead of wasting money shooting 9mm rounds), and a site adjustment tool. Start at 5yds., then increase from there 10+yds.

1. Learn to shoot straight.
2. Learn to adjust rear sites.
3. Learn to shoot with sites adjusted correctly.

Before, I started purchasing I started with a .38 spc several years ago, and since have fired .22, 9mm, .40cal, .45cal., 44mag., 38spc. in different form factors (std 45 and 1911 for example, revolvers & semi's).

I've realized for me, the Glocks seem to be the best fit for ease of use, easy field stripping, accuracy, reliability and my hand size. Everyone will have varying opinions on what they like best, but for you to find out what works best, you'll need to shoot various tools first.

For example (for me), I'm always fumbling with 1911's to field strip and align the slide release lever to reassemble, for me 1911's are nice to collect, and shoot but are a real PITA when it comes time to clean them up (could be my bad eyesight, big hands with lousy coordination to align perfectly, or I'm just a goof with the 1911, or the 1911 is just like that when they're fairly new because of perfect tolerances in manufacturing process for the Sig's), and the grip is too small and no ergonomics. Glock takes a few seconds to field strip, and you can reassemble with your eyes closed, there is nothing to lose, springs won't fly off into oblivion, no small parts to lose, no alignment for the slide release lever, no tricky pushing on the barrel techniques, et al. (Just to clarify, I'm not talking about full dis-assembly just referring to simple field stripping to clean the gun)

However, with that said, to familiarize yourself; I believe everyone should have at least one 1911, one Glock and one revolver in their collection, and learn how to adjust sites for accurate shooting, from there it's up to you what you prefer. I plan to have one of every caliber of Glock with .22LR kits and a 9mm Sig 226 to add to my 1911 XTM Sig., and then perhaps a 9mm CZ just to top things off just for fun.

After months of research, I got it:

Oops, it's not a 9 mm ... but I couldn't resist it!

Hahaha..... So, typical. I almost bought a H&K, thank goodness I fired one first. Hated it. I have a Sig 1911 too (XTM model), they are sweet looking and nice to shoot but I can't stand taking them apart to clean up, and don't like the feel in my hand.

I'd add a pic. but have no idea how to add a URL to my local drive.
 
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