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No, most Canadians who voted, voted for the Conservatives, the Bloc, the Greens, and the PPC
 
siciliano said:
I have a really dumb question;

Are any of the affected companies (Ruger, Beretta, Robinson, Sig, Etc.) able to sue the government for loss of income, discrimination, illegally banning, etc? Why don't or haven't more of the manufacturers stepped up to fight this as well?

Sorry if this is a obvious answer but the thought just crossed my mind.
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By and large, sovereign immunity is one reason why they couldn't. There are probably other reasons as well.
 
So what happens if i have a lower receiver currently awaiting transfer? is the store owner now on the hook for refunding me, as I haven't received the product? I would be livid if I was a shop owner.
 
Classic_Cool said:
"Most Canadians" voted for the Liberal and NDP parties. You need to face up to the fact that we lost this one through normal democratic means. The Conservatives alone didn't have the clout to prevent it.

It's as simple as that.
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If you bring in other leftist parties fine, you do have a strong point. But that doesn't change the reality that most of western news, media, educational systems and cultural influence is being geared aggressively towards socialism/control/anti-conservative values, and eventually march to some form of communist rule (Chines model?). So yes the majority of the Canadian population will be voting to strip their own rights in the name of safety/fairness or whatever, now or sometime in the future.

Its very obvious how the media's job is to dis-inform the public about firearms and crime issues, and the gun owning crowd sees right through it. What many here dont see is that the media is doing the same disinformation campaign for about every other issue: environment/international news/economic issues etc.

So NO, I will never accept these measures because they were brought in through undemocratic means by dis-informing the public. and Im not even going to delve into the OIC issue.
 
TT1900 said:
You can't be serious. You're comparing a people and culture who live lives of comparatively extreme hardship and are willing to die for what they believe, against a group who complain when their latest order from Tenda isn't to their door within 48hrs. It's not apples and oranges, its apples and spaceships.

I certainly don't agree with what is happening and will be making that position known to my respective MP. It's a waste of time and money and doesn't make anyone any safer. But if you think I'm going to risk what I've built for myself and my family over the past several decades for a few guns you're out to lunch. Sometimes I envy those with nothing to lose, but then I come to my senses.
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If you're not willing to defend what you believe then there is no future for you or what you spent your life collecting. Your family is now owned by the tyrant and every breath you take is allowed only if you follow his command. Our forefathers knew this in 1914 and again in 1939 even though the threat was on another continent. So what has happened to the patriots of this country? Grow up you morons or get ready to sit in the ashes that are left when your owner burns it all down around you. Nothing is more important or dear than freedom and that is always worth dying for.
 
What can they do exactly? If you rely on the political process to attain freedom (of any kind) you're going to be sorely disappointed.
 
HarryLime said:
What can they do exactly? If you rely on the political process to attain freedom (of any kind) you're going to be sorely disappointed.
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anything more than what they have been doing. They could host town hall meettings. Organize protests. get all over social media. get interviews with main stream media. Host debates etc etc. They literally do nothing
 
HarryLime said:
What can they do exactly? If you rely on the political process to attain freedom (of any kind) you're going to be sorely disappointed.
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^^agreed.

I'm a big believer in grassroots... small locally organized groups doing local work, protests, information sessions, handouts, ect....

I also don't believe that putting all of one's eggs in one political party is the way to go. rather, electing local politicians who hold the same values, regardless of political stripes.

A focus on understanding who the opposition is, studying them and dissecting them is also an important part of solid strategy.
 
fullmentaljacket said:
There's always a chance, however slim, that the CPC/PPC/some right wing political party could win a majority in 4 years, after the lefties sour on the idiots they elected most recently, and reverse the damage. I think those that have suggested their are hard times ahead economically and otherwise are correct. The question is, when is it too late to regain control, reverse the damage, and right the ship? Will the low info, CBC watching, gullible, naive, apathetic, want more free stuff, voters figure it out eventually, when they're rooting through the same trash piles as us, looking for food? Never say "it can't happen here" because it IS happening here.
If this scenario, a CPC majority, is a possibility, I'm thinking keep my stuff for 4 years and see how it goes. Unless the payouts are really enticing. Might as well get something for them, if they're going to confiscate them eventually anyways. Maybe we'll all become marksmen with our new bolt actions?
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Exactly how I think. Once everything goes Mamms up, and the government can't fund FA it will be election time.
 
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