More Wholesale Sports Ramblings

I almost coldcocked the guy dealing with me in Saskatoon. Fortunately another fellow (big brain) came along and life was much better. All I wanted was a couple of pounds of powder, not to be told I was a dip#### for buying an M305.
 
I dont quite understand what this topic is about, other than the regular old ##### post. I have dealt with many, many gunshops and outdoor retailers over the years. Evey last one of them has been a pain in the ass at one time or another including independent shops. It is very hard to find a person standing behind a retail counter that actually knows what they are talking about.

Thats what happens when you buy retail! Suck it up and live with it, they are all the same in the end.

Most of the morons that work in retail shops dont know thier ass from a hole in the ground, this is why they get paid very low wages.

Do your research before you shop, know exactly what you want when you walk or call in, and if you dont like the service go somewhere else! Simple.

Carry on :D

P.S. Dont ask the idiots behind the counter for reloading info, and or help with reloading components. Do your research before you walk in the door and know exactly what you want.
 
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I dont quite understand what this topic is about, other than the regular old ##### post.

Try reading the posts one day and you will understand.

Thats what happens when you buy retail! Suck it up and live with it, they are all the same in the end.

This couldn't be farther from the truth.

I've ordered from many and WS are the biggest arrogant jerk offs out of all of them. You are stating the obvious, yes they all make mistakes and occasionally you will be unsatisfied but WS seems to have a monopoly on screw ups and poor attitude. WHY DO YOU THINK THERE IS A "WHOLESALE ARE A BUNCH OF RETARDS" THREAD EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS?
 
No trying to defend WSS because I know their service can be crappy and some of their employees have a bad attitude but truth of the matter is its very economical to buy shotshells

I used a spreadsheet to calculate the cost savings for clay loads etc and if you are doing it to save money pick another hobby

Second of all to make if worth your while ( if you are a high volume shotgunner ) you will need a progressive. Problem with that is the cost of the RCBS Grand, dillon SL900 or the tried and true Hornady 366 etc are very high

Having said all that I got into shotshell reloading ( not even close to paying off the return on investment ) not to save $$ but for the pleasure of loading
 
crazy_davey said:
. Evey last one of them has been a pain in the ass at one time or another including independent shops. It is very hard to find a person standing behind a retail counter that actually knows what they are talking about.

Yes that is true as far as it goes, but Wholesale wins the prize for consistently being the winner in screw-ups. If there was an award for incompetence in Canadian retailing WS would be the perpetual winner.
 
I have had good luck there on the six or so dealings I have had. I ended up talking to someone that knew what they were talking about and had meaningful advice to give. They aren't the personalized service you would pay more for elsewhere but for the quick hit, they are as good as any.
 
Can we get this thread stickied so that we consolidate the "I hate Wholesale Sports" threads into one and we can stop having them pop up every three months? Every time the active "I Hate..." post drops off the front page someone has to start a new one. This could be accomplished by having a master "I Hate..." thread stickied at the top. None of this is new, just the same pissing and moaning regurgitated over and over.
 
boonerbuck said:
Try reading the posts one day and you will understand.



This couldn't be farther from the truth.

I've ordered from many and WS are the biggest arrogant jerk offs out of all of them. You are stating the obvious, yes they all make mistakes and occasionally you will be unsatisfied but WS seems to have a monopoly on screw ups and poor attitude. WHY DO YOU THINK THERE IS A "WHOLESALE ARE A BUNCH OF RETARDS" THREAD EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS?

So then quit shopping there and STFU! Do you think threads like this are gonna change the way they do things? Ya right!

I dont like the idiots there either, but like I said above, when I walk in the door I KNOW exactly what I want and hardly ever have problems with them. I deal with them 2-3 times per week and the same with Russells, they are all the same, get used to it.

#####ing and whining on here is going to get you no where. If you want Wholesale to change the way they do things, write the manager a letter instead of wasting time #####ing about it here, Doing that will get you absolutey no where.

Back to your regularly scheduled whining :D
 
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BigUglyMan said:
Can we get this thread stickied so that we consolidate the "I hate Wholesale Sports" threads into one and we can stop having them pop up every three months? Every time the active "I Hate..." post drops off the front page someone has to start a new one. This could be accomplished by having a master "I Hate..." thread stickied at the top. None of this is new, just the same pissing and moaning regurgitated over and over.

Agreed! Please sticky so we dont have to read this crap over and over.
 
BigUglyMan said:
Can we get this thread stickied so that we consolidate the "I hate Wholesale Sports" threads into one and we can stop having them pop up every three months? Every time the active "I Hate..." post drops off the front page someone has to start a new one. This could be accomplished by having a master "I Hate..." thread stickied at the top. None of this is new, just the same pissing and moaning regurgitated over and over.

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So then quit shopping there and STFU! Do you think threads like this are gonna change the way they do things? Ya right!

I didnt start the thread Dave. I was unaware that the thread was reserved for people sticking up for their incompetence and yes threads like this very well may change the way they do things. I remember someone e-mailing a link to them once to show how dozens of people were complaining about their service on a site with over 10,000 sportsmen on the membership. When no one talks about it, their reputation doesn't speak for their actions so maybe you should STFU.

I dont like the idiots there either, but like I said above, when I walk in the door I KNOW exactly what I want and hardly ever have problems with them.

Well good for you. What the hell does that have to do with everyone else across Canada who has to use mail order. Don't be so narrow minded.

I deal with them 2-3 times per week and the same with Russell's, they are all the same, get used to it.

Wrong!!

#####ing and whining on here is going to get you no where. If you want Wholesale to change the way they do things, write the manager a letter instead of wasting time #####ing about it here, Doing that will get you absolutey no where.

...and I suppose you didnt vote because it wouldn't change anything.

You obviously don't know what some people have been through with this outfit. You haven't had our problems because you walk in and know what you want and who you want to talk to. Good for you. Ignore our #####ing then. It's not your problem. They will get nothing but negative feedback from me until they get it together.

BTW, see how CGN has added the Buyer feedback rating, you would have to be an idiot to send your money to a guy who rated poorly... That's how you deal with big business...it's your only option.
 
I deal with them 2-3 times per week and the same with Russell's, they are all the same, get used to it.

Wrong!!

So are you saying I am lying? I have had just as many problems with Wholesale as I have with Russells which is lots! I know many other people who have had the same luck.

You obviously don't know what some people have been through with this outfit. You haven't had our problems because you walk in and know what you want and who you want to talk to.

I deal with mail order all the time, not with Wholesale, but many other dealers of firearms and firearms products. I have had the same bad luck with almost all of them at one time or another. If it is not them it is canada post that screws up.

Sure is funny how everyday Wholesale is open, there is almost always a long line up of people at the gun counter. They must be doing something right, or the store would be empty, right? People constantly walking out the door with rifles and or accesories under thier arm, must all be unhappy customers.

LIKE I SAID ABOVE IF YOU DONT LIKE THEM DONT DEAL WITH THEM, VERY SIMPLE. Go to Russells who is soooo much better in your opinion and quit whining.

#####ing and whining on here is going to get you no where. If you want Wholesale to change the way they do things, write the manager a letter instead of wasting time #####ing about it here, Doing that will get you absolutey no where.

So have you ever actually written a letter to the manager or managers of the stores that screwed up so bad when dealing with you? Seems like you dont think you can change the problem, but yes #####ing on an internet forum will get you much farther ahead, good luck with that one:rolleyes:

BTW I vote every election, and proud of it :D
 
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OK Dave, you can't follow what I'm saying and you have assumed way too much.

Let's do this again...

they are all the same,

I never called you liar just saying you are wrong. Don't start with this crap.

They all make mistakes yes, but the customer service/relations you get from WS puts them at the bottom. They pass the buck, blame you even, give you a number to the shipper and wash their hands of it, even after the fact that it was them you paid. When you tell them what Russell's has done to fix problems in the past, they call you a liar. They are not the same. They could care less because they believe suckers will be suckers.

I've had Glen at Russell's call me on his day off because of a screw up. I told them I was desperate. I had them actually knock all the GST and postage off an order for a previous screw up. It amounted to a free box of Partitions. WS told me I was lying when I brought it up on a major screw up. Sorry, how do people get away with this? It's exactly the reason it is all over their business.

I also always get a call from Russell's when there is an item not in stock on my order and it is only days after I dropped the letter in the mailbox. I've wondered 3 weeks later why my WS order hasn't arrived, called them to find out they are waiting for me to notice it's not in my box and call them. WTF? They also did something similar with a rifle. Great service!

Prices are why so many people go there Dave. Not the great service. Russell's have items that are cheaper and vice verse. At least I know that when Russell's screws up, they are going to make an effort to fix it and keep you as their customer. If they were ever to treat me like WS, I'd move on to someone else.

So when you get your head around the fact that I'm not talking about mistakes, maybe you can see where I'm coming from. If you don't like to hear about it, move on.

I don't know why people are offended about the WS complaints. There are many other threads to keep you entertained.

PS, I hope Vancouver kicks the crap out of Calgary tonight!
 
And for some reason you cant understand what I am saying. If you dont like it dont shop there, very simple concept, can you wrap your head around that.

BTW, I didnt always live in this over crowded hole! I once had to use mail order just like you poor saps.

Wholesale has cheap prices and employees who dont make squat. Thier sevice will always be the same, that wont change.

PS, I hope Vancouver kicks the crap out of Calgary tonight!

You wish :D
 
I have worked in the hunting and fishing business in B.C for over 25 years,retail and wholesale.If I dealt with my phone in customers the way that WS has dealt with me,I wouldn't have lasted 2 weeks.I deal strictly with Russell's,or US firms now. Gunner
 
I've dealt with all the mailorder firms. Just the other day I called wholesale looking for a redhawk 5.5" model. They said they had none in stock, so I asked what they had in .44 mag, if anything. In a snotty tone she replied, I CANT HELP YOU UNLESS YOU give me an item number, I can't help you. So I hung up and I probably won't bother calling them again. SIR on the other hand actually has people that are willing to help you with stuff, even if you don't have an item number.

SIR is good.
 
If you don't like the pews or the preaching, go to another church. I bought a complete rig from Wholesale in 2001 over the phone. I asked them to delay shipping because I was going to be out of the country when it would get to my place. No problems. They timed it so I got the rifle the day after I got home. I have also bought a complete rig from SIR over the phone. Still no problems. I knew what I wanted before I called. If they didn't have what I wanted, and I didn't feel like waiting, I went elsewhere.

Within the last month, I called Wholesale to buy another complete rig. It is a Ruger #1H in 405 Winchester. Their computer showed one in stock. Great! The called me back a couple days later and said there was a screw up and told me about the back order. Would I like the one that is back ordered held for me? Would I be interested in something else? I went through at least 6-10 other rifles that I fancied, though not as much as the #1 in 405, and they had nothing in stock. Over the whole thing, the woman I spoke to on the phone was more than helpful, pleasant to deal with, and when I told her that she was leaving me in tears, she asked me if I would like her to ship some cammo kleenex. We both had a good laugh over that.

Now, does anyone know where I can get a #1H in 405 Win in the blue walnut configuration in Canada for close to the same price that Wholesale offers? ($940)
 
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