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I own a bunch of rifles including 308's, 30-06's, 303's, 300wm, 375 h & h, 7.62 x 39 bolt gun, 30-30.
One of my 303 was built by Parker Hale with a deep blue finish, beautiful stock etc. The other I bought when I was 17 from SIR, and was an original military No 1 Mk 3.
I turned this into a beauty by chopping the barrel, adding a sporter sight, drilling/tapping, restocking, and having it headspaced. Its a great shooter now and great looking. Like taking something old and turning it into something usable.
Years later, I want to do another one, but now thinking about a Mosin Nagant. Might be a little more challenging. First I have to find one with a good barrel and proper headspace. Actually have eyes on a M44, since barrel is shorter and I do not want to mount a scope on this one.
Has anyone done a bolt handle job for it? Other than the stock I want to do it all at home. I do have a mig welder.
Only thing I may buy is the stock. Send me suggestions please. Henry
 
Yes TGC, I should of been more specific, I would like to put a sporter type bolt handle on it, and I do not want to bring it to a gunsmith. I am looking to do the job on it myself. thanks Henry
 
I turned this into a beauty by chopping the barrel, adding a sporter sight, drilling/tapping, restocking, and having it headspaced. Its a great shooter now and great looking. Like taking something old and turning it into something usable.

Ack. Don't let Skirsons catch you - He'll string you up by your toes. And Lou will be right behind him...

Please find a rifle that has already been hacked. Maybe I misread the original post about turning an original No.1 MkIII into a bubba special and how you want to repeat this with a Mosin?

If I didn't misread - Get ready to duck.

*sad face*
 
Have your considered a scout scope mount instead? goes where your ramp sight is, just knock out the pins, remove the ramp sight and replace with the scout scope mount
 
bubba' ing

Hey, Deltasilver, you read it right, I will be posting pictures of my project. I had brought the Lee Enfield when I was 17 years old, I'm 47 now. I am very finicky about my work, and would not use it for hunting until I modified it. It not only looks great but shoots beautifully. No regrets.
Now I want to do the same with a M44 Mosin Nagant. I do not think I want to scope this one. If I do I will "scout scope" it. Will post pictures along the way. Hey, maybe you'll want to buy it from me. Later
 
Hey Ruger, please don't take offense in my following comment - simply as my humble opinion.

If you're going to take a rifle that many visitors to the milsurp section appreciate "as is", and then modify it so that it ceases to be a representative example of the hardware used in battles that shaped our lives, don't be surprised if folks voice discontent.

Good advice from Deltasilver - favor the already bubba'ed ones, I think then the quality of your work will be better savored.

Lou
 
louthepou said:
Hey Ruger, please don't take offense in my following comment - simply as my humble opinion.

If you're going to take a rifle that many visitors to the milsurp section appreciate "as is", and then modify it so that it ceases to be a representative example of the hardware used in battles that shaped our lives, don't be surprised if folks voice discontent.

Good advice from Deltasilver - favor the already bubba'ed ones, I think then the quality of your work will be better savored.

Lou
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Hey Lou, You can't get any more diplomatic that that :D. Ever consider becoming a politician?

All joking aside, I can't condone the irreversible bubbatization of any historic military firearm. As others have said; Ruger, If you feel you must bubba a rifle, get one that has already been hacked & have at er'.

George
 
Personally, I don't like the look of sporterized rifles, only good thing about them is, that you can buy them cheap.

But IF you want to bubba something, take a cheap one, but I don't think that you can improve a M44, one of the cheapest and nicest rifles around.

And one of the rare ones, I am sure you can kill an elephant with. Not that I want to, this is just an example for the power of this nice baby.
 
...opinions vary. Both sides respectfuly represented and, eloquent...I love it!

To be fair, very few like to see a peice of history/collectible altered...I'm also pretty sure, modified (not bubba'd...lol) can also have advantages. From the get-go it's a good concept. There of lots of these out there. Prices vary but, seem to fall on the "fair-priced" to "cheap" side of shooting irons. It doesn't reflect their [the rifle's] abilites, just the market! Moisins are what they are. I beleive it would be a great base for a project like this. The sentiments about preserving history are fair and, no one said you "couldn't" do it. The best advice so far I'll echo:

-Start with one already altered (it should be cheaper as a result of the mods...most are) if possible. Your hard work will be better reflected "saving a bubba'd peice" than cutting up an orig.

-Have lots of fun with it! There is no shortage of other's who have made beutiful "snipers" and "modern appearing" moisins. They still shoot as well as they did and, in some cases, better!

Keep us posted and, include project pics as you proceed!

Here's a link to some moisins that have been "modified" (no, I'm not a zombie hunter but, did read the article on how to build a cheap sniper...)...I, personally, just LOVE the look (hopefully feel too...not that lucky yet) of some of those RICHARDS "MICROFIT" STOCKS" with the multi-coloured laminates...no not an original Moisin but, not an ugly duckling either...

w ww.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/page/How+To+Build+A+Budget+%22Sniper%22+Rifle+EXTRA+-+GUN+####%21%21
 
burn him burn him he's a witch.... errr bubba :D :D

I think thats what Lou really wanted to say :D

well your first sporter was 30 years ago so thats almost forgiveable. But you do realise that a lot of us here are constantly scrouning for the correct wood and metal bits to repair the past sporterizations of these rifles.

Yes its your rifle but consider selling your full wood correct rifle for one that has already been sportered and beyond repair. They you can work on fixing it to your personal taste.
 
woodchopper said:
burn him burn him he's a witch.... errr bubba :D :D

I think thats what Lou really wanted to say :D
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Hmm, maybe I'd consider the thought, but I usually try to express my opinion in a less subjective manner. :p

I'd propose the following:
1. You can't take a Mosin Nagant and pimp it so that it will be super much better than stock.

2. An intact Mosin Nagant will remain intact if no one fools around with it and basic care is taken. (i.e. A rifle won't bubba itself if it stays in the closet for too long because it's bored and has hit mid-life crisis). 20 years from now, the fact that it is intact will still be appreciated. 100 years from now too.

3. Bubba'ed rifles: often (not always), the rifle will loose value ($).

4. Doesn't matter if only a dozen, or dozens of millions, were made. A milsurp is a milsurp, and deserves (in my opinion...) some respect that makes it different from any other firearm - because there's always the chance that a dude that held the rifle long before you deserves our greatest respect.

5. More related to this thread: pre-bubba'ed exist. Find one, then let your creativity run loose! I have currently three bubba'ed Lee Enfield project guns... And with that approach you'll probably even save money.
 
Agreed with Lou on all 5 points. If you must cut down or modify a rifle, please try to buy a sporter to monkey with. A milsurp is a milsurp, and ontop of having respect for the soldiers and nations that carried those arms into battle, these rifles are not being made anymore, have not been for almost 60 years, and never will be again. Just think how many millions of Brown Bess were made for the British Empire, I am sure in the mid 1800's you could buy one for dirty cheap. But today, a good condition Brownie will fetch a hefty hefty sum. Even a M91/30 today can go for 200 dollars. Imagine how much it will be worth in as little as 60 years? (I know it sounds huge but in the grand scheme of things it's a speck in time). I once saw two brothers go thier seperate ways because bro #1 decided to bubba Grandpa's No.1 Mk.III. So stick to bubbas, no one will hate you for modifing a modified rifle. Otherwise, good luck.
 
Bubba'ing a Mosin

Hey there fellas, did not realize it would be such a touchy subject, but glad to report that I may have found a "start with" bubbu'd M44 at Ellwood Epps, that could only look much better once I finish with it. Promise to leave the originals as is, wanna keep my friends at Gun Nutz. thanks y'all.

Bubba
 
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