Mosin Nagants=brutal recoil?

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I have heard that Mosin Nagants have very strong recoil, especially
the carbine versions.

Surplusrifle talks about "stout" recoil and using a towel
to protect his shoulder because he left his recoil pad at home.

Is this true? Do they have more or less recoil than other battle rifles.
 
The long 91's and 91/30's kick as much as a No4 or a Mauser. The carbine obviously will kick more because of their lighter weight.

My M38 and M44's certainly have a noticeable recoil, but it doesn't stop me from shooting them prone, or any other position.

I've put 50 or 60 rounds (or more) through my M44 in one session. You know you've been shooting, but I've never found it uncomfortable.

You just have to cowboy up if you're going to shoot it! ;)
 
The carbines aren't nice to the shoulder. The 91/30 I don't mind, but the M44/M38 don't feel nice when spending a long time at the range; I'm thinking this may be because of the thin stocks they have?

-Rohann
 
It's "stout" but not intolerable. Use the sling and a tight grip, it's not terrible. the recoil issue is really only limited to the carbines(the longer 91 and 91/30's are about the same as thier peers for recoil), and is largely a product of the 180 grain heavy ball surplus ammo most folks are using these days. I found that 150 grain light ball was much gentler.
 
I found the recoil off of the longer 91/30 too heavy when I first got it since it was my first gun but I've now come to enjoy the kick. Shooting a lot out of the carbines will leave your shoulder sore for a day or so and you'll probably even feel shooting the long rifle a day after but it's not unbearable and not enough to put one off shooting them.
 
When I first took my Polish M44 out to the range in the summer of '97, I took 100 rounds of Chinese (hot) ammo with me. I shot in a T-shirt that day and was quite sore afterwards (and purply-shouldered the next day. Damned steel buttplates...). On the plus side, the carbine produces a nice bright orange fireball even in the noontime sun!

The carbine packs quite a whallop, but still not nearly as bad as my Mossberg M500 with magnum slug or buckshot loads. That is very nearly un-enjoyable and will knock your fillings loose. I'm sure others will agree.

Cheers,
Michael in Edmonton

PS. go here http://7.62x54r.net/ and check the ammo section. They have recoil values in ft/lbs
 
strangely enough, I find my mauser k98K to be a bit more painful after about two dozen shots than my mosins. Maby its just me...?
 
I actually quite enjoy shooting my M44 with the Hungarian heavy ball.

Of course, I don't think I've ever done more than 20 rounds at once....
 
I've never shot one, but the round is about the same size as 30-06, is it not? I would image they're fairly comparable. As with any rifle, the amount of felt recoil depends on a lot of variables. If you hold the rifle like a limp-wristed-mincy-pink-doily-tea-party man, it'll probably beat you senseless. I'm not saying that you (or anyone else) holds a rifle that way, of course :cool:

I'd say the best way to find out how the recoil feels is to shoot one. Find a buddy (or a fellow CGN'er who is willing to go shooting with you) who owns a Nagant and put a few rounds through it. You might find it to be not all that bad, who knows? I never put more than 5 rounds through my 30-06 at a stretch to prevent myself from developing a flinch, so I'd suggest doing that as well. Hope that helps!
 
ollie said:
hold it tight and don't be a wussy. You'll develop a nice callous in no time:D!
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I've shot ollies rifle. Nothing to worry about. I'm not a big guy, and while shooting it I didn't even spill the tea I was holding. My monocle required some readjustment.
 
GarandLuvr said:
When I first took my Polish M44 out to the range in the summer of '97, I took 100 rounds of Chinese (hot) ammo with me. I shot in a T-shirt that day and was quite sore afterwards (and purply-shouldered the next day. Damned steel buttplates...). On the plus side, the carbine produces a nice bright orange fireball even in the noontime sun!

The carbine packs quite a whallop, but still not nearly as bad as my Mossberg M500 with magnum slug or buckshot loads. That is very nearly un-enjoyable and will knock your fillings loose. I'm sure others will agree.
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Ditto on all of the above; I dumped my 3.5" Mossburg but love my M-44's, all four of 'em!!!! I got a good deal on some ammo at Phoenix in Edmonton :D
 
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Stevo said:
Hans und Franz say: "No puny girlie men allowed to shoot the mighty M44." ;)
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ROTFLMAO, ja ja, aftah zeh pump you up, you vill shoot das gun ja?

Mosins are not bad, IMHO. Shoulder them properly, they come with a nice wide buttplate, and recoil on par with a 30-06. You might find the first trip or two to the range a new experience, but after that, firing 100+ rounds per session is no biggie.
 
This is an urban legend. M44 carbin has moderate recoil, if properly bedded. The receiver has a sqare tooth on the bottom. The rear surface of that tooth is the only place, that has to have contact with the stock. The lower screw, rear side of the mag well, rear side of trigger guard, or rear of the action and upper screw should not touch wood. The screws should not be too tight. Once the rifle is bedded, it kicks normally.
 
I don't find the recoil to be unbearable on my 1891/30.

Having said this, the first time I really took her out shooting I was wearing a sleeveless shirt, and after about 100 rounds, the metal 'butt pad' (or is it butt plate?) caused some serious chafing on my shoulder.
 
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