Mosin snipers

They are fairly scarce but there are a few still around.
I was passing a gun shop two weeks ago so I decided to stop in. "Any Mosins?" "Nope" says the guy behind the counter and then he calls to another guy, "Any Mosins?" "Nope, we just got snipers". They had three, one missing the scope. I bought 2 1944 Izhevsk snipers (Molot 2012) which are in the best shape anybody will find. Both slug 0.3122 and are 7.63 at the muzzle and bore.
They are out there but you have to look. They had these since July in boxes in storage. I've been by that gun store several times since July and got the "Nope".
Canadian Tire stores have had them from time to time.
 
westrifle_sks said:
Molot have do the same thing we are doing but we actually tell people that we done that.
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Some of their stuff may be a little off but I have owned 10 pu snipers from various imports and I can easily tell what's repro and what's not. That last shipment of molot snipers was the real deal.
 
No they were not. Molot even ordered scopes with old school cork washers on them. It is super easy to fake mosin sniper, just get the high wall receiver model with smoother finish. Rough 1942-43 models no snipers made from them but very few rifles from 1942,43 and all 44 will be nice and smooth. Perfect fake sniper material. Molot is owned by Russian government they had access to original sniper rifle lists and the certificate of authenticity give me a brake
 
wojnar said:
No they were not. Molot even ordered scopes with old school cork washers on them. It is super easy to fake mosin sniper, just get the high wall receiver model with smoother finish. Rough 1942-43 models no snipers made from them but very few rifles from 1942,43 and all 44 will be nice and smooth. Perfect fake sniper material. Molot is owned by Russian government they had access to original sniper rifle lists and the certificate of authenticity give me a brake
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So molot stamped old scope numbers on the barrels of Izhevsk rifles, ground them off and stamped new ones? Before you answer that be aware that the old number is usually not completely ground away. Did molot order scopes from different manufactures and time periods, age them & then stamp referb marks from ten different arsenals on them? Of course you know there were several models of pu scopes, all of which were represented in the last import. Did molot assemble rifles & leave them sitting around for decades so the stock cutouts oxidized at the same rate as the rest of the stock. Did they imprint the scratches under several layers of shellac that occur only when you operate a bent bolt wearing a wrist watch? Lets not forget that molot just happened to use rifles in the same serial # range as sniper that have been in collections for decades. I am talking about two numbers off here not 20,000. I have had several rifles from different sources & time periods & the molots were very consistent. Have you ever even held one of these rifles or are you just going on what somebody told you? I don't know a damned thing about molot & I don't care either but I do know exactly what I am looking at. Give ME a break.

As a side note, a gent in the states bought a molot sniper dated 1947. Guess molot faked that too. Industrious bastards those molot folks are.
 
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desporterizer said:
So molot stamped old scope numbers on the barrels of Izhevsk rifles, ground them off and stamped new ones? Before you answer that be aware that the old number is usually not completely ground away. Did molot order scopes from different manufactures and time periods, age them & then stamp referb marks from ten different arsenals on them? Of course you know there were several models of pu scopes, all of which were represented in the last import. Did molot assemble rifles & leave them sitting around for decades so the stock cutouts oxidized at the same rate as the rest of the stock. Did they imprint the scratches under several layers of shellac that occur only when you operate a bent bolt wearing a wrist watch? Lets not forget that molot just happened to use rifles in the same serial # range as sniper that have been in collections for decades. I am talking about two numbers off here not 20,000. I have had several rifles from different sources & time periods & the molots were very consistent. Have you ever even held one of these rifles or are you just going on what somebody told you? I don't know a damned thing about molot & I don't care either but I do know exactly what I am looking at. Give ME a break.
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I have to confirm this. The MOLOT rifles were very clearly snipers from deep storage.
 
Don't fall for the conspiracy boys, they are all humped! If molot could fake that thoroughly, matching k98s sell for twice as much as a pu 91/30 and a g43 three or four times. How come we don't see any of those popping up? I don't even want to mention what a k98 sniper would sell for.
 
Yes, I call BS on the fake sniper too.

If only because the price difference here, which must reflect the wholesale price and the original cost, are virtually the same for snipers with original and repro scopes. We're talking $50-$75 difference.

It's hardly worth going through the sort of work described above for no real profit.

I have a sniper with an original scope and one with a repro scope. The difference in the two guns as regards to workmanship is noticeable, even if the scopes were removed.

So if my original is a mass produced fake, it is a pretty good fake, with the scope having been properly set up for windage and everything, unlike the repro.


Remember also how we were told last year that M38 mosins were virtually unobtainable and would not be coming into Canada again, which justified the $600+ price tag.

Then Tradeex came and flooded the market with cheap ones last fall. I bought 5 for a grand total of $265 each.
 
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