Oh, Ive been looking at ammo prices for some comp grade stuff. Even 7.92 ammo is cheap compared to that. My entire setup is maybe 250 bucks on a good day. I traded Toz for a Mosin I got for maybe $160. That was before all hype started. I had more than one. Traded one away. Paid maybe $40 for the scope.
Most Accurate 22 LR iv ever shot in my life that did not Cost Much
- Thread starter Frozen Tundra
- Start date
- Location
- Nova Scotia
I'm not knocking you, as I'm in the same boat. But going after jahn, for his comment about only shooting at 100 to brag. Nope just challenge to shoot at shorter ranges. I was out last week shooting 100m with my Cooey. Still wind way my downfall. Laid down a better group than a target 1022 with more powerful scope.
My cooey just rocks a 45$ fitco.
Last edited:
- Location
- Nova Scotia
Internet agrees? You are aware that 50y matches were shot way before the internet even was a thought.
I'm never trying to discourage anyone, just open there eyes to what's possible.
Shoot that TOZ's that you've got there, I bet it will shoot. You want a 'value shooting bag', I have a pair myself... Get yourself a bag of the 'cheapest dust free fish aquarium gravel' from Walmart, and 2x old socks... pour 80% of the bag in 1x (front bag) and 20% in the other (rear bag) shoot it off a solid stable bench and see what you're working with. Shoot a bunch of 5 shot groups, I bet you will get a few cloverleafs! cheers.
Oh, you must be old school like Brian, person who's property I basically live on. I only stay in Toronto to work. I spend my live there. Spent 30 days even there last summer. Nothing but a shotgun, .22 and cayotes. It took me some jet lag to get used to cars moving back and forth, building and such after I came back to town from the boonies. All I did was working on property, catching local trespassers and doing a lot of shooting. Brian served during 80's. He cut down a shooting stick off of one of ceders in front of me, went prone and started firing 7.92 out of a K98 off of that stick. Him and his brother did qualification shooting with FN, that how long ago he served lol. His brother told me they were doing some insane range qualification on figure 11, Herman the German. 100 rounds, 2 cold shots, everything else had to hit within rectangular on the target. Iron sights. 500-750m something like that. Just CF infantry. We shot at 300 with an AK.
Last edited:
Did I trade you my Mosin for that Toz lol ? I dont think I did. That rifle must've changed hands if it's same rifle but yea, it can shoot better than me. Mag wasnt original, it was converted and had a bit of a feeding issues on a 4th round but I fixed it.
Last edited:
Speaking of cheap stuff and a 22. Did a little mess around at the range last time I was there. Mag dump center mass or the head from 15m. I shot a 22. Fixed barrel under 250 bucks vs Glock 34. Guess which 22 I was shooting.
https://freeimage.host/i/S6wbyb
https://freeimage.host/i/S6wpuj
https://freeimage.host/i/S6wbyb
https://freeimage.host/i/S6wpuj
Back when I was a much younger fella, my step dad had a Marlin 39 that was a needle threader, had the Ballard style rifling, and was an adult sized gun, rather than scaled down/compact.
Put a LOT of shells through that one! Sadly, lost in a building fire, or I would have tried to own it!
Cooey had some pretty good barrels. Folks then were still looking for at least some signs of quality, in a product, and they didn't spare the effort on their barrel making mostly. If it shot well, you could pretty much make the rest of the gun out of scraps and leftovers.
Best standard barrels I have found on a decently priced gun were on .22 cal, BSA Martinis. There was a long stretch when they simply were not wanted, and the quality per dollar ratio, was pretty hard to beat.
turbo_bird
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Kamloops, BC
I'm still playing with the one I bought back when Canada ammo was selling them. Definitely the most bang for the buck as far as accuracy I've ever bought. I decided to try hand at PRS shooting this year, and the rifle certainly isn't what's holding me back. 10 round mags for the Scorpio EM332 work with very little fitting, and only cost about $20 each. The Burris rings I put on it cost as much as the rifle did new though, never mind what the scope cost. All in with the bipod and a couple bags though, I'm into it for around $1500. That's way cheaper than most of what I'm competing against, I've shot with guys that have $10k+ into their rifle and scope. I've shot two CRPS matches, and am in the top 50 for points in Canada with it.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/lmd47OikDb9gK3d7VLsJ9tXQ2zNd3aXIjGSS_mKf5DO66jLeEGVzO0NFFW8-ydaNNhjEZrwGufLd33E-hHEyBzE-kyRhwAgGIfUpDN_TE6aCc-fP1kaLl###RGO9uyN85v02JsTRB3c=w2400
I can't shoot like this consistently, but I'd say it's pretty good for 10 rounds off the bipod. Especially for a cheap rifle.
It's a bit of work to make it into a great rifle, and mine is constantly evolving, but that's just another part of the shooting hobby that I enjoy. I don't have a ton of time, but I've definitely got more time than money. Plus there's a fair bit of satisfaction in making or modifying your own gear.
Kristian
I'm still playing with the one I bought back when Canada ammo was selling them. Definitely the most bang for the buck as far as accuracy I've ever bought. I decided to try hand at PRS shooting this year, and the rifle certainly isn't what's holding me back. 10 round mags for the Scorpio EM332 work with very little fitting, and only cost about $20 each. The Burris rings I put on it cost as much as the rifle did new though, never mind what the scope cost. All in with the bipod and a couple bags though, I'm into it for around $1500. That's way cheaper than most of what I'm competing against, I've shot with guys that have $10k+ into their rifle and scope. I've shot two CRPS matches, and am in the top 50 for points in Canada with it.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/lmd47OikDb9gK3d7VLsJ9tXQ2zNd3aXIjGSS_mKf5DO66jLeEGVzO0NFFW8-ydaNNhjEZrwGufLd33E-hHEyBzE-kyRhwAgGIfUpDN_TE6aCc-fP1kaLl###RGO9uyN85v02JsTRB3c=w2400
I can't shoot like this consistently, but I'd say it's pretty good for 10 rounds off the bipod. Especially for a cheap rifle.
It's a bit of work to make it into a great rifle, and mine is constantly evolving, but that's just another part of the shooting hobby that I enjoy. I don't have a ton of time, but I've definitely got more time than money. Plus there's a fair bit of satisfaction in making or modifying your own gear.
Kristian
Good post, and food for thought. I bought one of the original Scorpio rifles, inspired by the thread here about them. Not an expensive gun ($199?) and I really liked the ergonomics, bolt handle was ridiculously short. Thought the mags were very decent, and for a change=affordable. However, accuracy was a disappointment, and I think I had realistic expectations considering the price point.
I can see myself wanting to try one of these though, the barrel length is a huge temptation. Hope somebody updates with a range report!
Mystic Precision
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Summerland, BC
I have been really enjoying the Scorpio and we now have a large number in our fleet. The first one really surprised me how well it shot... with SK rifle match. typical bulk ammo sucked. with SK RM, it was printing sub 1" 5 rd groups at 100yds.
Since set up a 2nd (and 3rd) to use a tuner, figured out Lapua CenterX and have really enjoyed this rifle all the way to 400m. You can see the build info in the other thread
My first match was the Joe Rich rimfire rally and it did very well for me taking the top spot vs some very good shooters. The next was the CRPS Westerns with day 1 going quite well... not so good 2nd day. But it wasn't the rifles fault for the poor ending.
Requires a good dose of TLC but what is underneath is one heck of a rifle.... and still dirt cheap to buy.
Jerry
I started CRPS with a Savage MKII FV with a new stock. Did well in my first match but the overall set up didn't allow me to change my barrels and my testing was so good with the 10/22, I went that route. If barrel swaps were easy, and the mags were a better manf, this would have been a great entry point... but that now goes to the CZ457 in a bolt, or a 10/22 in a semi
The Savage MKII could be a great NRL22/ORPS option as they tend to shoot really well out to moderate distances and the mags can be fixed... same with the extraction.
Attachments
Last edited:
Cooey Model 600 with a Weaver V-22 scope on it. Didn't cost me a cent as it was a Christmas gift. Around the same time my youngest uncle bought a Cooey 64 semi auto, ended up with it on a trade and both are still going strong and still putting the bullets on target.
Rod B
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Love to see pics of those 1/8 & 1/4 inch 50 yard groups.
- Location
- Nova Scotia
Same..
- Location
- Nova Scotia
Don't hold your breath.
Must be a 1 shot group...
- Location
- Blaster land, Okanagan BC
I remember shooting groundhogs at a friends of my dad’s farm as a kid with an old tube fed bolt action Cooey, the thing was a tack driver. No critters were safe from it.
For me the $230-250 Marlin xt22vr the wife bought me for my birthday 6-8 years ago is an amazingly accurate and cheap .22, I’ve shot a ton of rabbits with it the last few years. My buddy’s Win model61 is no slouch either, love that old tube fed pump .22 but it’s not a cheap purchase if you find a nice condition one for sale.
For me the $230-250 Marlin xt22vr the wife bought me for my birthday 6-8 years ago is an amazingly accurate and cheap .22, I’ve shot a ton of rabbits with it the last few years. My buddy’s Win model61 is no slouch either, love that old tube fed pump .22 but it’s not a cheap purchase if you find a nice condition one for sale.
In the the early 80's I bought a clean Brno model 1 with an old Bushnell Scopechief in Lynx rings for $90. It was my first truly accurate 22. Up until then I'd had a variety of 22's, including 10/22's and Cooey's. I've had a lot more since then, 1422's, kkj's, Winchesters, etc, but the old 1946 Brno still holds it's own in the accuracy department. In the early 2000's it got upgraded to an AAA walnut stock finished and checkered by Lou Bates out of BC. Now it's still accurate, very pretty, but no longer inexpensive!
Falconflyer
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
These were very good 22's!
ALBERTA BOY
Regular
- Location
- Edmonton, AB
My Son's Savage Mark II F. I hate the damn thing but holy cow can it shoot. Actually it's more accurate than some of my target rifles.
I've owned and gotten rid of various Mark II rifles over the years including ones with spiral barrels, target stocks etc etc and none shot as well as his budget rifle. It's truly a golden sample.
I've owned and gotten rid of various Mark II rifles over the years including ones with spiral barrels, target stocks etc etc and none shot as well as his budget rifle. It's truly a golden sample.
