Most accurate Semi-Auto 223 Non-Restricted

beltfed said:
Go ahead, bury your head further into the sand.

Sometimes this forum is like dealing with children who stick their fingers in their ears.d:h::HR:
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ok so an asteroid is coming to flatten the earth, nothing we can do, not even a cockroach will survive, do we fall to our knees and cry till the end comes or do we go on with enjoying our lives?
 
grelmar said:
I hope they do. It will lay bare their true colours on the issue. And it will be the end of the Liberal Party as an electable group.
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Mmmm... I don't know about that...

As much as I would love to agree, I'm not sure this is the case. It should have been C-68 and the Lieberal's pledge to end private gun ownership in Canada that ended them as an electable group years ago. Well, that and innumerable scandals over the years; but somehow they keep coming back. Considering they were voted to the edge of oblivion during the previous election but managed to come back with a healthy majority this time - especially after running on a campaign of ruining the country - speaks to their resilience. Resilience like a cancerous tumour.

To the point, the powers that be which purged Australia and more so the UK of nearly all private firearm ownership, as far as I understand it, are still very much around today, electable, and even in power. Considering the fact that the only voting option for (single-issue) firearms owners was relegated to second place in the last election, I very much doubt that much would change or many of the typical Canadian non-shooting sheeple in Vancouver, Southern Ontario, the GTA or the maritimes would even take notice.

As far as laying bare their true colours, we ALL know their true colours. We don't need them to ban all semi-autos to know that; we have countless previous Lieberal governments that speak to their true nature. Actions speak louder than words, or silence...whichever the case may be.

I'm afraid I need to agree with beltfed that folks need to tune into the grim realities of a Lieberal majority and the implications thereof. This is not speaking from under a tinfoil hat, either - just from personal experience - the same personal experience as many of the good folks on this forum.

Furthermore, it would seem that the EU is heading in that direction already and considering Turdeau's need to fit in with the cool kids it may come sooner than we all think. Posted on it here:

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...nts-to-Ban-Semi-Automatic-Guns-in-Switzerland
 
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Agreed, but filling thread after whiny thread of running around with one's hair on fire will not cure anything. I'm sick of it.
Join and donate to the Orgs, meet with your MP to voice your concerns (Have you done this? I have.)

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If long range varmint/precision 223 is the objective, should just stay with bolt gun.
You can also hand load with much longer projectiles than a semi can take.

For semi the Modern Hunter will probably be best.

I would caution you about the SAN's non-free float barrel if you are used to bolt guns.

~~~ All online political debates end with gun control, all online gun debates end with politics ~~~
 
I am personally leaning to purchasing a ATRS MV but for those who are considering ACR and don't want to convert it to NR, there is the ACR DMR. IF Bushmaster ever gets their new plant sorted out maybe the ACR DMR will finally get produced after two years of everyone waiting.
 
anoxia said:
I am personally leaning to purchasing a ATRS MV but for those who are considering ACR and don't want to convert it to NR, there is the ACR DMR. IF Bushmaster ever gets their new plant sorted out maybe the ACR DMR will finally get produced after two years of everyone waiting.
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Do not get your hopes up, Bushmaster has a long record of saying alot about the ACR and never actually fullfilling their promises. For this reason, many believe Bushmaster is on the verge of dropping the ACR as a failed line.
 
ianfroese said:
That would be a sad day. I'll have to buy one before then, I guess :/
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I'll say. The platform has the most potential yet to be realized out of any platform I have owned, researched, or held. It really is a great system with terrible factory backing.

As long as you dont mind the challange of making it into what you want or need, and are good with putting in the leg work to get there, the ACR has the most potential to overtake the AR in popularity if it could just get the support and comparative pricing.
 
I've gotten trade offers from owners of an sl8, and a modern hunter, wanting to trade for my Swiss Arms. What does that tell anyone. ;)
 
If you are going to make a decision to purchase a semi-auto rifle with the primary feature of it being non-restricted in our country, and in our current political climate, it is a valid point to consider the changes that would affect it.
As pointed out, the low prices of the used SAs is likely indicitive of this, in addition to the recent classification fiasco.
The RCMP and the Liebrals have stated they are after the semis. They have issued reports and agendas.
The libs have a majority. The writing is on the wall, not falling from the sky.
 
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beltfed said:
I think you initiated it Dave.
If people think spending $3k on a SA is not smart based on decisions of the Orgs in power, then they really need to sit back and give similar objective thinking about a purchase of any other semi-auto available currently in Canada.
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i'll buy all of your Semi Autos for $5 CAD beltfed! You should be excited for this deal! since your convinced your not going to be able to own them very much longer, and nobody else is going to want to give you anything for them since they will all be chopped eventually... Heres your chance to earn $5 DOLLARS for them! :cheers:
 
My posts regarding the legal/re-classification implications are not meant to scare or warn people off semis or any guns.
I think the more out there the better as it hopefully makes us stronger and a more diversified group when we have to fight the government (not if) on said changes.
 
beltfed said:
My posts regarding the legal/re-classification implications are not meant to scare or warn people off semis or any guns.
I think the more out there the better as it hopefully makes us stronger and a more diversified group when we have to fight the government (not if) on said changes.
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Exactly. The ones who are selling their restricteds or won't consider a certain gun right now because of the political party in power right now are letting the antis win. Get the gun you want (which is obviously a Swiss Arms), and join the fight. Don't roll over or run away.
 
How about the Non-Restricted Volquartsen Evolution .223 semi.-auto. rifle for just under $4,000Cdn. (available from CGN sponsor/retailer).

It's one of the few that offers a manufacturer claimed 1/2" MOA accuracy guarantee and it uses standard AR-15 magazines too (apologies if I missed it reported earlier in the thread).
Unfortunately I couldn't find much info. (in my short attempt trying) on this rifle except one negative thread regarding an owner with complaints of poor reliability and even worse reports of the manufacturers even worse customer service dealing with said reliability issues. It does come across as more of a boutique rifle with low volume numbers; however it would have been nice to confirm some reliability/accuracy reports from an independent source or any source for that matter. Some factory info. regarding what ammo. is required to gain the 1/2" MOA accuracy that the manufacturer claims is possible would have been nice to read about as well.

Really curious about this one and while I'd prefer a Swiss Arm's (although possible issues with future prohibition?) or a Modern Varminter (although not proven by the public yet) instead, it does offer a potential claim to the title if we can believe the manufacturers claim of 1/2" MOA accuracy.

So after all that I'll go with the HK SL8 rifle as my #1 pick for the most accurate factory .223 semi.-auto. NR rifle (available for a reasonable price, in need of no modifications and new in stores now).

Cheers D
 
warrenlikesboats said:
Thread about accurate semi .223 has just gone political ..... grrreat.cou:
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The Sl8 is in my opinion modified or not the most accurate .223 Rifle you can purchase off the shelf as is , I never had a bone stock rifle but the rifle I had was largely altered cosmetically it was amazing and very well built rifle worth every penny .

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