Most Quickiest and Accurate Powder measure?

[Why not?]

Nothing throws powder charges as accurately as a Harrell. Extruded powders will throw within less than 1/10 gr, ball or flake much closer than that.

As you might expect, they cost more, but have a boiler plate lifetime warranty, and if you're not satisfied you can just send it back.

Ted

 

[Chevelle]

Im new to reloading and Im trying to decide if I am going to go the chargmaster route or get a thrower and a decent scale? The chargmaster from natchez is about the same price as a decent powder thrower and a good scale maybe a bit more. I keep reading that the guys that have the chargmaster love them. How is the warrenty on them? Can anyone else give me some pointers?

 

[Dean2]

Recently bought a scale that measures to 1/100 of a grain. Tried throwing 50 rounds, direct into 218 bee cases, of 13.5 grains of Lil'Gun from one of my Lyman 55s. I then dumped the loads onto the scale and weighed them. Over 80% were within 3/100s. Worst was 5/100s over. Lightest was 1/100th under. Close enough for me and the thrower is WAY faster than the Lyman or RCBS electronic thrower/scale units I tried. Throwing 50 takes well less than 15 minutes even working REAL slow, most of the time it actually takes me about 10 minutes.

 

[trevj]

Nothing throws powder charges as accurately as a Harrell. Extruded powders will throw within less than 1/10 gr, ball or flake much closer than that.

As you might expect, they cost more, but have a boiler plate lifetime warranty, and if you're not satisfied you can just send it back.

Ted

Well, now we know who posted without reading through all the previous posts!

Cheers
Trev

 

[ripitup911]

can you mount a harrell on a progressive the same as other measures

 

[beltfed]

Well, now we know who posted without reading through all the previous posts!

Cheers
Trev

Out of all that have posted to this thread, who actually has used a Harrell's?
I'll give you a hint - likely no one that is recommending other powder throwers...

can you mount a harrell on a progressive the same as other measures

There is an adapter for Dillon 550s that I know of, but I have mine mounted off press so the actuation of the press does not disturb the accuracy of the powder throw.

 

[trevj]

Out of all that have posted to this thread, who actually has used a Harrell's?
I'll give you a hint - likely no one that is recommending other powder throwers...

Don't get me wrong here. I'm sure it's a nice piece of gear.

Just don't confuse 'pride of ownership', with 'works better', unless you want to sit down and document a couple thousand throws for us...

Everything I've seen and read about Benchrest shooters paints them as even bigger gear whores than the average avid bow hunter. Nothing wrong with that, if it makes them feel more confident. But it does make them a good market for shiny goodies that may not actually work any better.

Just not my thing to spend that much money on something that will not provide a tangible return for me. The fella that sat and did all those measurements pretty much spelled that out too.
Seems to me, by those results, technique has as much or more to do with getting consistent results as build quality of the thrower does.

Once you have the volume adjusted, there is nothing to go wrong or change, unless there IS actually something wrong with it. Which you should catch with your checks, anyway.

I like my old Lyman 55. Wont be running off and buying the Harrell's any time soon, either. Under like conditions, I trust it to perform as well as any. Folks with more time on their hands, and a willingness to document their experiments, have kindly provided their information to support this.

Without knowing the authors of either of the comparisons I have read recently on thrown charge powder measures, I cannot tell you if they had a dog in the race, so to speak.

It may be a generalization to say that differences in results are not always borne out to the same scale as the price difference might suggest. But it seems pretty consistent, no matter what the field.

Nope. Have not used a Harrell's. Looks nice. Smooth too, with that bearing in there. I'd rather spend that kind of money on an accurate scale, and use scoops to load it, when I need accurate measures, if I have to spend the money.

Cheers
Trev

 

[Pesky ab]

best and quickest powder measure

I have several brands of powder measures/throwers, and as some of the previous replies questioned,it really depends on what distance you are shooting. for short range most will work fine, the RCBS chargemaster is actually not bad,but painfully slow with some powders,if you are carefull and consistent and reject the charges that go over it will be good to +/- .1 grain,the Harrells powder thrower is also good to about the same if you are dead consistent and not being distracted,it seems to like the ball and flake powders best with shorter stick powders like H322 also working pretty good, I will often throw charges with my harrells and then double check them with my chargemaster rejecting the charges that are out.I don't own an RCBS any more as I gave it away , as I recall it was about the same and had the same issues with longer stick powders.Some people fix this be grinding the body right at the point where the binding occurs and casting a silicone plug there, this allows the trapped powder to be "wiped" through without cutting it and without jamming.for the best combination of speed and precision on my long range stuff I use a Prometheus, it is hands down the best I have owned it will measure out about 6-10 rounds and minute when properly tuned and is accurate to .03 grains,however they are cost prohibitive for most .If everything else is good it will yield loads with es's in the single digits with little effort.
hope that helps some

 

[Northman999]

I have an RCBS powder thrower and a chargemaster combo.

I find the chargmaster consistently gets within 1/10th of a grain, most often right on the button. The thrower is very nearly as accurate with most powders (so long as you get into the rhythm of your actions), but it hates IMR 4064 (within 2/10 of a gr, and very gritty to work).

Honestly, for short and medium range shooting, I cannot tell the difference between a batch of loads carefully weighed out to be exactly right on, and loads that are +/- 2/10ths of a grain. There are just so many other factors that seem to affect accuracy more than six or seven tiny little sticks of powder in a case with thousands of them...