Mountain Rifle with Grizzly capability..your thoughts?

Suitable for both criteria? Not gonna happen. Get a sheep gun and sling a 12 gauge on your back. There was a griz shot in Alberta a couple years back and it took a half dozen rounds of 338 LM to drop it! The autopsy found other bullets in the bear, showing that it had been previously shot without effect. I'd consider griz to be dangerous game and would not reccomend anything smaller than a .40 caliber rifle. 444 Marlin, 45-70 etc.

Just my two cents.
 
Gatehouse said:
I didnt know if you would drop rifle, hence the question. Maybe it would be better to just ask what you would do in this situation :

Your rifle is in your hands or slung on shoulder. Bear spray is holstered on your waist or wherever you carry it. You encounter a bear at 40 yards. It starts advancing On you very rapidly....

What do you do?

How about 25 yards? 15?
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At long range like that I'd yell at the bear and make myself look as big as possible. That is likely all that would be required but I'd also unholster my bear spray for use in case he got within a threatening range. Unless the wind is really bad the worst thing using spray first is going to do is stop the bear and allow for an unrushed follow up shot with the rifle or most likely the bear takes off and we all have a good day.
 
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sheephunter said:
At long range like that I'd yell at the bear and make myself look as big as possible. That is likely all that would be required but I'd also unholster my bear spray for use in case he got within a threatening range.
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He's not at long range for long. A bear that is rapidly moving towards you will be on your toes in seconds. What do you do with your rifle?
 
So if you are hunting with the wind in your face you may surprise a bear and it may charge you. You whip out your spray and the wind blows it into your eyes blinding you and adding a little spice to Mr. bears meal.
 
Maybe its best to hunt bears with the wind at your back....chances are you won't surprise a bear and if by some chance you did, your spray will work better! :)

Edit....forgot to add the smiley face! :)
 
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I think I'll stick with hunting the way its been done for hundreds of years. Walk into the wind with a weapon is one of the ways. Surprising a bear is the chance you take when you are trying to be stealthy. If you don't like the odds of this happening, hunt where bears don't exist.
I really thought this thread was about mountain rifle of choice????
 
guido said:
I think I'll stick with hunting the way its been done for hundreds of years. Walk into the wind with a weapon is one of the ways. Surprising a bear is the chance you take when you are trying to be stealthy. If you don't like the odds of this happening, hunt where bears don't exist.
I really thought this thread was about mountain rifle of choice????
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It was until somebody dared disagree with the all knowing one about bear spray.
 
are we still there .....????

a good training added to Ted our .366 master will be to go in Europe at the end of the fall when most of the hunting is done ...

you'll stay on line and wait for the wild boars to be pushed by dogs and beaters ... I'm not talking about monsters one only 50 to 100 kgs and you'll how to handle a moving target coming to you ....

still don't understand the bear spray hype ....
 
A 7.5 pound .300 Mag would hurt to shoot. Your 7mm-08 with the right bullet (the 7mm Mauser has been used on elephant with very accurate shot placement) would do, but you'd have to be able to place the shot while thinking you're about to be Yogi's lunch. Not being able to accurately place the shot with any rifle won't be overcome by a larger calibre/cartridge.
 
Jeepguy said:
Look for an a-bolt mountain titanium in 325 wsm . Depending on your particular idea of a long range shot it will likely suffice.
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Thinking about it, I haven't seen any 325 WSM's in gun stores lately or ammo at the box stores...it would work fine though!
 
sunray said:
A 7.5 pound .300 Mag would hurt to shoot. Your 7mm-08 with the right bullet (the 7mm Mauser has been used on elephant with very accurate shot placement) would do, but you'd have to be able to place the shot while thinking you're about to be Yogi's lunch. Not being able to accurately place the shot with any rifle won't be overcome by a larger calibre/cartridge.
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elephant poaching in the old days and hunting todays is not exactly the same story ....
 
skhunter said:
So if you are hunting with the wind in your face you may surprise a bear and it may charge you. You whip out your spray and the wind blows it into your eyes blinding you and adding a little spice to Mr. bears meal.
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My guess is most people are intelligent enough to adapt to the conditions. I've never said it was the only solution or a guaranteed solution....just that it was the odds on favourite.....Anyhow, I'm tapping out.
 
sunray said:
A 7.5 pound .300 Mag would hurt to shoot. Your 7mm-08 with the right bullet (the 7mm Mauser has been used on elephant with very accurate shot placement) would do, but you'd have to be able to place the shot while thinking you're about to be Yogi's lunch. Not being able to accurately place the shot with any rifle won't be overcome by a larger calibre/cartridge.
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HURT Maybe you :p I have A Rem M7 300 RSAUM i shoot all the time and it don't HURT me ! With 165 gr Swift Scirroco's in it i would not hesitate to shoot any sized BEAR with it ! ;) RJ
 
H4831 said:
The black bears of today are only a little bit more dangerous than were the bears I wrote about and I pointed it out, just to be accurate in accounting of them.
How many bear attacks on humans did you have last year in Saskatchewan? Or the year before that? Or the year before that? or the year before------
I remembering a couple of years ago about reading of a bear killing a person in Quebec. The story on the news stated this was the second bear fatality on humans in Quebec in TWENTY TWO YEARS!
When was the last time you heard an official news report of a black bear killing a person, anywhere in Canada?
Pretty hard to consider them much of a hazard to hiking and camping in Canada, isn't it.
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I've PERSONALLY known 2 (TWO)!!!!! people who were mauled and KILLED by bears, so your stats mean diddly squat to me. I won't be a third. Just in case you were wondering who they were , A young boy (17) Kyle Harry , who I worked with his mom, and Mary Beth Miller, who I work with her sister. Totally unrelated to each other, but nonetheless, my story is one of BEING CAREFUL, and never be in the wilderness without a GUN.
 
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