Oh for Christ sakes...so it's ok to let the bear do what comes naturally but by law we limit what human can do...wilderness carrymight have stopped this tragedy.
The lesson to take home here is there should be a lot more SSS. ..we have the right to life regardless of what laws the citidiots pass.
You're making a comparison of and/or complaining about bears with no laws on their behaviour and people with laws on their behaviour?
Please tell me you are kidding.
You're making a comparison of and/or complaining about bears with no laws on their behaviour and people with laws on their behaviour?
Please tell me you are kidding.
I view it as a realtor passing out business cards at a funeral.
Rest in peace mother and child.
Hope the father can pull through this somehow.
Only blessing I can perceive is him getting the bear causing the torture.
I wish the anti-hunting, anti-gun crowd fought as much as us. Then perhaps they would be as ineffective as we are.
I do not know the complete facts about this incident. So pls. take this as a thought.
Mr. Sockeye is a business man who supports (lots) of money killing of people's food resources in Northern BC and the Yukon Teritory for his TV shows and clients - in short FOR HIS OWN PROFIT!
As to posted information he had his guides firing 17 times at a grizzly (possibly wounding it) without killing the animal, thereby conditioning this in his words "Apex Predator" to gunshots.... Is this good practice? Well, you tell me.
In our area were we live, hunt and gather this had never happened and we don't want his kind here.
Thank you, RR
While I agree with the content of Shockey's post... I am a smidge uncomfortable with what smacks of "grandstanding" on the death of a mother and child... maybe that is just me.
THIS!
Jim Shockey's greedy self interest, self promotion and his commercialization of wildlife and hunting has done more to harm the image of hunters in non-hunters views than just about anything else in the last few decades.
His ego clearly knows no bounds. To take this tragedy and attempt to use it to gain more profit and business security for himself is just another example of how out of control his ego is. Bragging how he could have shot this particular bear earlier that year if only the rules were different...! Wonder what the father thinks of a self aggrandizing/promoting claim like that!
Yes change the rules so Jim Shockey can sell more wilderness Grizzly hunts and we will all be sooo much safer.
Better yet, allow someone with a commercial interest to determine wildlife management for all of us and see how that goes.
I am sure this couple would have known the risks better than most of us armchair opinion spewers but deemed the rewards of their wilderness rich lifestyle to be worth it all.
I doubt that they were wishing that Mr. Shockey's quota could have been increased so that the wilderness could have been made safer (and by association, less wild) for them...
RIP to the mother and child. May there always be families like this, living this lifestyle.
Many people take the position that these remote wilderness areas should be left alone and that there is no need to kill the bears because humans should not be entering the bear's habitat.
They are wrong, humans are at the top of the evolutionary scale, and like the bears, should be able to go wherever they please.
Just as we take risks when we enter areas where they habituate, the bears should be also be vulnerable to us protecting ourselves against them, and hunting them.
A preventable tragedy happened now we got commenters going off on stupid tangents.
Point is that in life if you don't prepare and equip yourself to deal with known hazards you eventually pay the price.
It is well known that grizzlies frequent this area.
It is common sense to expect that a responsible and prudent person would equip themselves at the very least with pepper spray and know how to deploy it.
Especially if they potentially had the life of an infant to protect.
Would you take an infant out on a boat ride in a big lake without wearing life jackets or on a car trip without wearing a safety belt and strapping the kid in?
Same thing.
Maybe she had a handgun, shotgun and pepper spray, who knows. Maybe the bear attack was by surprise. Maybe she missed. If you flip your boat, you can be wearing all the life jackets you want, but may succumb to hypothermia anyhow.
Sometimes shlt happens, not everything is preventable.
If you want to take the emotion out of it and make decisions based on facts start right here.
Who made the decision to go for a walk in the woods with a ten month old infant?
Didn't see it in the write up so I presumed she didn't have pepper spray or a gun.
You would think it would have been mentioned.