MVP Patrol 308

What is the mag capacity limit for bolt actions ?

The MVP Patrol got me thinking.... since it takes M14 mags couldn't we un-pin em and use a 20 rounders in this bolt action? Or is 10 the limit for bolts? Never looked it up.
 
In December I narrowed my 2 rifles down to the MVP and Hog Hunter but opted for the time proven Savage design. As I don't hunt game I opted for .223 so I could get lots of varmint shooting in.





Anyways my point is with the hollow stock I added a bit of lead shot to balance it out and used expanding foam even and epoxied a rod into the front area under the free floated barrel. Even with a cheap poly stock it completely changed the feel and is more rigid.




I need much better glass (clone off my kids .22)and lower QD mounts (on the way) to get the optics lower so I can also take advantage of the heavy all metal beefy sights as well.

So have fun as I just love how these short beefy rifle designs feel. :)

Just getting started but looks like a tack driver even with the short beefy barrel. :)


Thanks for the pics randyhub. Good job on the stock mods. I'm looking at same two rifles for a "truck gun". When honest with myself the only two things I like about the MVP over the Hog Hunter are the detachable mag and the slightly shorter barrel. Everything else I prefer about the HH. So.... might just have to add a detachable mag to HH and possibly get the barrel shortened to 18.5. I'd also do similar stock mods because I see how they would improve it.

I LOVE short barreled .308's, always have and consider it to be one of the most useful and effective setups available.

My father is extremely experienced with guns and has a very deep knowledge base. Has owned a long list of interesting calibers. A few months ago I asked him if he could only have one rifle for the rest of his life ...

Hands down a .308 carbine bolt action, most likely something built on a Remington 700.
 
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What is the mag capacity limit for bolt actions ?

The MVP Patrol got me thinking.... since it takes M14 mags couldn't we un-pin em and use a 20 rounders in this bolt action? Or is 10 the limit for bolts? Never looked it up.
no because the M14 mag was designed for an M14 since its semi auto and no pistol mag exists BOOM 5 round limit, now the Elander 10 rounds mags are not built for the m14 but for the AIA 303 clone chambered in 308 and the mags fit in an M14 but because the mags are different physically (minor difference but still different) they are legal as they are not designed for the rifle, but still fit and function in it
 
no because the M14 mag was designed for an M14 since its semi auto and no pistol mag exists BOOM 5 round limit, now the Elander 10 rounds mags are not built for the m14 but for the AIA 303 clone chambered in 308 and the mags fit in an M14 but because the mags are different physically (minor difference but still different) they are legal as they are not designed for the rifle, but still fit and function in it

Thanks for the clarification ih8ipods..... even though its beyond retarded.
 
Thanks for the pics randyhub. Good job on the stock mods. I'm looking at same two rifles for a "truck gun". When honest with myself the only two things I like about the MVP over the Hog Hunter are the detachable mag and the slightly shorter barrel. Everything else I prefer about the HH. So.... might just have to add a detachable mag to HH and possibly get the barrel shortened to 18.5. I'd also do similar stock mods because I see how they would improve it.

Thanks found the heavier 20" barrel just the right combination for length and ballistics. I may one day convert the bottom metal to take a detachable magazine but frankly being a bolt action and holding 5 rounds I just keep topping up the box magazine. I have read many hunters complaining the longer magazines dig into them when slinging the rifle.

My biggest concern was the bolt design of the MVP with the cartridge pick up part of the bolt and the plastic front sight, just looked somewhat flimsy but that is just me being critical.

I did notice when shooting continuously even with the fixed mag everything heated up fast which effected my accuracy so most likely will just stay with a fixed mag. :)
 
How much weight did this drop off your MVP? I haven't had a chance to bring my MVP to the range or bush yet but I do think it feels a bit heavy compared to some of my other guns when I bring it up to my shoulder. Wouldn't mind dropping the weight if possible or at least shifting the center of gravity a bit to the rear. I put it on my bathroom scale and with the factory utg scope it came in at 8.3 lbs(not sure how accurate that number is given it's a bathroom scale).



Well I put on my new LSS Chassis onto my MVP Patrol 308 it looks pretty sweet and feels so solid.




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Sorry for the delay for those interested i've been busy at work and the weather has been pretty crappy lately but I finally got out to do some shooting tonight.

I only had 8 rounds of 150 gr hornady superformance left so I made it equal and fired 2 groups of 4 rounds each of the different weight of bullets I had to see how it would do.

The handloads were also my very first handloaded ammo I have ever done so I was pretty stoked to shoot it and see. I used 168gr nosler match competition bullets with 43 grains of Varget powder with CCI 200 primers with an overall length of 2.800" It was fun to reload and now to shoot and see I was pretty happy with my results and will reload some more at 43.5 then some at 44 grains to see if it makes any difference and go from there to find the sweet spot. This will be used for hunting so I will be using nosler 168gr ballistic tips so I am trying to get a good hunting load for that.

Now I am also not a sniper shot either so most of the groups were messed up by my poor marksmanship :) so take my grouping with that in mind also

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What is the mag capacity limit for bolt actions ?

The MVP Patrol got me thinking.... since it takes M14 mags couldn't we un-pin em and use a 20 rounders in this bolt action? Or is 10 the limit for bolts? Never looked it up.

There is no limit for bolt actions but since the mvp uses the same magazines as AR's in both .223 and .308 it does get slapped with the 10 round max limit law. I have XCR-M 10 round pistol magazines and they function excellent in my .308 mvp patrol.
 
How much weight did this drop off your MVP? I haven't had a chance to bring my MVP to the range or bush yet but I do think it feels a bit heavy compared to some of my other guns when I bring it up to my shoulder. Wouldn't mind dropping the weight if possible or at least shifting the center of gravity a bit to the rear. I put it on my bathroom scale and with the factory utg scope it came in at 8.3 lbs(not sure how accurate that number is given it's a bathroom scale).

Ya all I have is a bathroom scale too it says mine weighs 9.8 lbs so not sure how accurate that is tho and that is without the bipod and magazine and ammo of course. But that stock makes the gun feel so solid it totally changes how it feels no question about that. and the MDT buttpad is just awesome I fired off 50 rounds tonight and my shoulder is perfect not even a hint at being sore. Shooting the stock rifle my shoulder was definitely hurting after my first shooting session with it. I HIGHLY recommend the MDT buttpad :)
 
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Well, I sure like the way your stock looks in the pictures. Was it pretty straight forward to install? ie. Did you need to modify anything or did you just bolt it on?


Ya all I have is a bathroom scale too it says mine weighs 9.8 lbs so not sure how accurate that is tho and that is without the bipod and magazine and ammo of course. But that stock makes the gun feel so solid it totally changes how it feels no question about that. and the MDT buttpad is just awesome I fired off 50 rounds tonight and my shoulder is perfect not even a hint at being sore. Shooting the stock rifle my shoulder was definitely hurting after my first shooting session with it. I HIGHLY recommend the MDT buttpad :)
 
Well, I sure like the way your stock looks in the pictures. Was it pretty straight forward to install? ie. Did you need to modify anything or did you just bolt it on?

Easy as easy gets :) on the bottom of the rifle is 3 bolts the first is holding the trigger so leave that one the next 2 hold the stock on so remove those two the stock comes right off drop it in the LSS and put the two bolts supplied with the new stock and your done that.

You then put on whatever grip and buttstock you want again super easy. The tac21 stock requires you to do way more it's not a drop in replacement like the other two stocks they sell.

The only thing I had to find was a castle nut wrench for the buttstock to tighten that but a lot of people just tap it tight with a brass punch.
 
Well I ran out to shoot a bit today before it got too hot out. Took my Tavor for a rip and shot a bit more of my MVP Patrol 308 this time using handloads with 44 grains Varget and 168gr Nosler Competition as well as 5 using 168 Nosler Ballistic tip hunting bullets.

Here I shot the bottom right target to find zero because I changed the powder amount, The top two are my 5 round groups after zeroing for the new loads.

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Here is the 5 rounds of ballistic tip hunting rounds I loaded. Looks like they shoot about 1 1/2 lower then the competition nosler bullets but still grouped well I think

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