Have you considered KAC if money isn't a concern and you want the best?
MY 1st AR15 ...WHICH ONE
- Thread starter Alln1
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They are hand built in a basement by some guy on this board named KevinB, rumour has it that he uses a hacksaw and a large bastard file to assemble each one.
The other rumour is that they are extremely expensive top tier goods...
Gunnerlove
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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My Stag shoots well (still just over moa with handloads) and has been 100 percent reliable for over 5k rounds since Dec 08.
If you start thinking that you are getting a better product because you are paying more...... you may be right. I would also say you get good value for the jump from Norinco to Armalite and for the jump to a Stag. After that (IMO) you are paying a premium for a brand name with decreasing returns.
But that is just my 2 cents and I am just a random guy on the internet, so in the end get what you want and shoot the hell out of it.
If you start thinking that you are getting a better product because you are paying more...... you may be right. I would also say you get good value for the jump from Norinco to Armalite and for the jump to a Stag. After that (IMO) you are paying a premium for a brand name with decreasing returns.
But that is just my 2 cents and I am just a random guy on the internet, so in the end get what you want and shoot the hell out of it.
My 2 cents? Instead of doing the same thing everyone else does, by buying a cookie cutter AR, then spending the next 3 years taking parts off and changing them constantly only to wind up with a closet full of old AR parts that you cant resell...Skip all that crap. Send a letter off to Alberta Tactical Rifle and get one of their milled lowers with a 2 stage trigger, the flared Magwell and cross hatched front, Have them match up a well fitting upper, build the upper with a quality bolt/carrier and a stainless bull barrel...seriously, has anyone ever bolted on grenade launcher to their M4? or a Bayonet? Screw that, bull barrel accuracy with a target grade barrel. They can build it with a nice free floating top end and all the magpull do dadds you'll wind up buying anyway. You'll show up at the range and people will drool and you'll still have a closet left over for your shoes and gunsafe...and you can say you supported a Canadian Company and kept a few really good guys employed. An extra buck spent today will save you five over the next 3 years of rebuilding.
My 2 cents? Instead of doing the same thing everyone else does, by buying a cookie cutter AR, then spending the next 3 years taking parts off and changing them constantly only to wind up with a closet full of old AR parts that you cant resell...Skip all that crap. Send a letter off to Alberta Tactical Rifle and get one of their milled lowers with a 2 stage trigger, the flared Magwell and cross hatched front, Have them match up a well fitting upper, build the upper with a quality bolt/carrier and a stainless bull barrel...seriously, has anyone ever bolted on grenade launcher to their M4? or a Bayonet? Screw that, bull barrel accuracy with a target grade barrel. They can build it with a nice free floating top end and all the magpull do dadds you'll wind up buying anyway. You'll show up at the range and people will drool and you'll still have a closet left over for your shoes and gunsafe...and you can say you supported a Canadian Company and kept a few really good guys employed. An extra buck spent today will save you five over the next 3 years of rebuilding.
well holy sheep #### that's a nice rifle. again, if you don;t mind me asking.. could you give me a slight idea how much it set you back?
That's not my rifle...Thats one of the ones shown on Alberta Tactical's webpage. My point is that, rather than buy one of the mass produced ones (which are almost all coming out of the same plant) then having to replace part by part, only to have an awesome rifle built on a crappy lower, just have it done right the first time. Sure it'll set you back a bit more than the $1200 an entry level north american made ar will cost... but your getting a turn key product... a Canadian made Hotrod of sorts that leaves little if anything to upgrade.
blaxsun
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
I love my 10.5" LMT. And with the savings over a Colt (which I only know from reputation), I was able to do a lot of additional upgrades. And no deference to ViktorF, but upgrading my AR with all sorts of different parts was the primary motivation in getting an AR in the first place! Insofar as not being able to resell any of the old parts, that's never seemed to have been an issue (sure, one has to occasionally fire-sale the odd component on the EE - but there always seems to be people looking for parts to build or upgrade their ARs).
I'm not intimately familiar with Alberta Tactical Rifle, but from what I've read and can see they make a high-quality product. Ultimately, if you want one of the best AR's either a Knight or HK fits the bill (longer barrel, mind you).
I'm not intimately familiar with Alberta Tactical Rifle, but from what I've read and can see they make a high-quality product. Ultimately, if you want one of the best AR's either a Knight or HK fits the bill (longer barrel, mind you).
The heart of the AR is the quality of BGC, gas tube, barrel and LPK. If the rifle breaks down, it is because one of these things suck.
The small parts are always being overlooked. The pin, the bolts or the heat treatment of your discconntor are little things that make you AR go down.
The small parts are always being overlooked. The pin, the bolts or the heat treatment of your discconntor are little things that make you AR go down.
Gunnerlove
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Vancouver Island
What upgrades does my 20" 4R need? Have I been missing out and shooting poorly because I lack a rail system? All those years wasted.
Ammo and lots of it are the best accessory an AR can have. Training will do more to improve accuracy with a service rifle than any bolt ons.
As for the remington R15, the one I shot worked fine and grouped well. They should hold up fine for 99% of Canadian users. For DCRA Service Rifle they are just about perfect, and quite cheap.
What upgrades does my 20" 4R need? Have I been missing out and shooting poorly because I lack a rail system? All those years wasted.
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With all due respect to Alberta Tactical Rifle's fine builds... who here wants a turnkey AR with little or nothing to upgrade raise your hand?
Even the most uber kick a$$ AR on the planet begs for some sort of widget.
Isn't it the nature of the beast? (must... save... money... for... food)
To a certain point I must agree. I like buying parts for it more than actually buying the gun itself!
