My 22 shoots 1/2" groups at 50 yards/meters all day! Really? Prove it!
- Thread starter Underthegun
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A new rifle requires a new entry. This is 6 groups as it was shot for the Sniper's Hide 6x5 thread but everything is comfortably under 0.5".
0.265", 0.198", 0.314", 0.236", 0.365", 0.339" for 6 group average of 0.286".
Rifle is an Vudoo V-22 with 18" MTU profile barrel and Trigger Tech Diamond in an MDT ACC chassis shooting Center-X. The rifle is positioned so my face is in the shadow of the table while shooting.
And the caliper close-up to make it official
Jeff
Nice shooting. I added you to the successful list, and I believe you have the first Vudoo on it.
Thanks.
I'm really surprised this is the first Vudoo entry. I know several members of the forum that have Vudoos and are easily capable of completing this challenge.
I think the 1/4" club in within reach with a more stable rear bag. I was using an Armageddon Gear Squishy Rear Bag which is great for flexibility, large elevation changes and does eliminate your pulse but is no more stable than supporting the rear of the rifle with your fist.
- Location
- Saskatchewan
Finally after hurricane force winds all spring, I got a calm afternoon to do some shooting. Rifle is a factory CZ 452 vamint with a Yodave trigger kit. Scope is a bushnell rimfire 6-18x40mm. SK standard plus ammo.
**edit** I realized I measured the middle group incorrectly so I attached a new photo with the proper measurements
Group sizes:
0.3575"
0.3675"
0.3615"
0.4745"
0.3165"
Average group size is 0.3775"
This is my first entry so hopefully I did not miss anything!
**edit** I realized I measured the middle group incorrectly so I attached a new photo with the proper measurements
Group sizes:
0.3575"
0.3675"
0.3615"
0.4745"
0.3165"
Average group size is 0.3775"
This is my first entry so hopefully I did not miss anything!
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Finally after hurricane force winds all spring, I got a calm afternoon to do some shooting. Rifle is a factory CZ 452 vamint with a Yodave trigger kit. Scope is a bushnell rimfire 6-18x40mm. SK standard plus ammo.
Group sizes:
0.3575"
0.2810"
0.3615"
0.4745"
0.3165"
Average group size is 0.3602"
This is my first entry so hopefully I did not miss anything!
Sorry, off topic, what range is this? Been to a few in Sask as I live here, but that one doesn't look familiar. Nice shooting BTW and rifle
- Location
- Saskatchewan
I think it's just the camera playing tricks. Here are calipers on the center group correctly
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I know the 1/4" club is within reach but youll have to do your part in the right conditions with quality ammo ur gun likes. You have the skill and now own the tool to do it. Great shooting and happy to see you with a Vudoo. I dream one day of owning one Haha. Try RWS R50 for the 1/4 ' challenge, Ive got a feeling itll work. Cheers Chris This is meant for jgraves!!!
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First Bergara on the list, not sure why, there are lots of positive reviews on them.
Bergara B-14R
AICS AT chassis
Delta Stryker 4.5-30x56
Timney trigger
LRA bipod
Lapua Center-X
50 yards
Shot off the bench with bipod and rear bag (I forgot to take a range photo sorry). Group sizes are .301", .266", .227", .275", .329". Average .280".
Bergara B-14R
AICS AT chassis
Delta Stryker 4.5-30x56
Timney trigger
LRA bipod
Lapua Center-X
50 yards
Shot off the bench with bipod and rear bag (I forgot to take a range photo sorry). Group sizes are .301", .266", .227", .275", .329". Average .280".
Attachments
Excellent shooting and results. You may wish to double check the .227 group as there's paper showing between the two bullet holes furthest apart.
About why there aren't more Bergara's (or Tikka T1X, CZ MTR, or other relatively new models) on the list there is a theory. A lot of guys try out rifles such as these at 50 yards. After all, other than 25 yards targets, what's more convenient to do at a range with 50 yard targets? They find that shooting five consecutive five-shot-groups is not as easy as it may appear. They then declare that their rifles can do this all day long, and move to long range shooting at over 200 yards, where groups are not relevant.
About why there aren't more Bergara's (or Tikka T1X, CZ MTR, or other relatively new models) on the list there is a theory. A lot of guys try out rifles such as these at 50 yards. After all, other than 25 yards targets, what's more convenient to do at a range with 50 yard targets? They find that shooting five consecutive five-shot-groups is not as easy as it may appear. They then declare that their rifles can do this all day long, and move to long range shooting at over 200 yards, where groups are not relevant.
I just measured the top bullet hole in that group and it measured .208", then measured the whole group again and got basically the same value as before (a couple thou smaller). So actual group size by my measurement is .241". The overall average becomes .294" if I measured the other groups correctly. That's my bad for being lazy and just subtracting .22" instead of measuring a bullet hole. If I ever have a target that claims to be in the .25" club I'll make sure to be more careful.
You may have a point regarding the difficulty of the challenge, and for some people I'm sure that's the case. That said with the popularity of NRL 22 style shooting maybe lots of shooters are deciding to use their range time practicing barricades or timed stages at varying distances rather than testing the mechanical precision of their rifle. I get a lot of enjoyment out of printing tiny groups but at the same time recognize that other than breathing and follow through I'm not really testing my skills as a shooter. Compared to an NRL 22 stage I'm sure this type of shooting is dull for some people.
Perhaps you're right. Now that they know that nothing is needed other than breathing and follow through, surely more of those shooters with Bergara and the likes will post successful challenges just as you have. At the same time, it's possible that the absence of those rifles indicates that many of them may not be up to the challenge even when the secrets of breathing and follow through are practiced. Time will tell.
https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/6x5-thread-v4-0-new-1-1-20.6253073/ .Bergara and the likes assuming you mean the other newish 700 footprint repeaters like the vudoo and rimx seem to be doing just fine even with those young and dumb prs guys driving them. I would think you dont see many on this list is because people are purpose building them for practical type matches where their scores wont be improved because they shot thousands of rounds off a bench to go from a .33" group to a .28" group and their time would be better spent practicing positions like the previous poster was trying to explain. It probably doesn't help that every post showing good results out of these guns is met with a certain amount of passive aggressive and condescending replies as seen in the quote above.
I’ll try it with my stock savage Mk2 when I’m back from my next shift at work. I’ll use Fed Match and CCISV. I expect an average of about .75” if it’s a good day. It’s a $330 rifle with a $450 scope. Call it $900 with rings and crappy butt pad+cheek rest. I suppose one could work out a $$ figure per .1” group size reduction. A sampling of higher end ammo from Tesro will cost almost as much as another rifle. It would be super cool to list rifle+optic cost divided by group size so shooters can understand what the investment vs return is.
Welcome to CGN with your first post.
There's no need to debate in this thread or to make false assumptions or misleading insinuation. My comments were not made with regard to Vudoo or RimX rifles and did not mention them in any way whatsoever. Perhaps you're aware there's a world of difference between a rifle with a barreled action alone that's $2500 for a Vudoo and $1700 for the RimX action (plus more for the barrel) and those I referred to above, the Bergara, CZ MTR, Tikka T1X, and other mass produced factory rifles. Posters and readers would do well to remember that this is a thread of specific nature. Those who wish to discuss other types of shooting are welcome to do so in related threads.
Perhaps it's indeed too troublesome, perhaps not. Of course you realize it's a like someone boasting "I can run a sub-four-minute-mile but I don't feel like proving it." Why don't you prove my skepticism is entirely unfounded?
