My 22 shoots horrible at 50 meters challenge/discussion
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I don't get the point of this second thread, but I am detecting just the slightest whiff of pompous arrogance. Why the elitist attitude? So what if people fail the 50yd challenge? It's a challenge, not everyone is going to be successful. And not everyone owns expensive guns with high end glass. If you wanted to keep the thread to successful attempts by expensive rigs only, you should have stated that in the original post.
With that said, I guess I won't try using my Henry H001 in the 50 m challenge. Average group size shot resting from the bench, using any ammo, didn't matter, was about 5" at 50m.
This was typical.
With that said, I guess I won't try using my Henry H001 in the 50 m challenge. Average group size shot resting from the bench, using any ammo, didn't matter, was about 5" at 50m.
This was typical.
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Perhaps the point of this thread is to provide a place for folks to post their unsuccessful attempts or other results; many posts in the original thread were becoming less about successful attempts and this can be a distraction. As one commenter noted, "A whole lot of "fail" and not a lot of success being posted lately....". The result was unnecessary clutter.
You nailed it.
No I get it. And I could see where a "failed attempts" thread was becoming necessary simply so it would be easier for Underthegun to notice the successful attempts. But I don't see the need to start this thread with such condescension.
... Really?
I mean, I like the original challenge in that it's good fun and a tough challenge for most, and it probably opened people's eyes to the fact that really, unless you have thousands of dollars to invest in a single rifle and scope setup, it's really hard to consistently shoot 1/2" groups. Even then it's a challenge. But there is no need to go rubbing people's faces in it because they fail at it using what they have and want to share their experience. Not everyone can afford a benchrest accurate setup, and belittling those who fail collectively by banishing them to a seperate thread, from that perspective just seems childish. I didn't realize it was such an exclusive group that was welcome to participate...
The reason I worded it like that is because I asked a couple times in the challenge thread to keep the posts in line with the original intent of the thread and it still continued.
I've stated previously in the other thread that you are more than welcome to post your failed attempts, just post them as an official attempt. No posting of single groups. I never belittled anyone. In fact when I started the 22 challenge thread I never even owned a 22 that was capable of making the challenge.
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I was out with my Mini-14 today. I put a cheap Bushnell scope on it and I wanted to zero it. Okay, says I...shouldn't be a problem. I had some handloads with 50 grain Speer hollowpoints and let fly. At 25 yards, it was quick and easy...and accurate...with some bullets going into 1 hole. Piece of cake, says I, as I put a target up at 100 yards. Since it was shooting 1" above point of aim at 25 yards, and perfectly centred, I thought it would be easy peasy. Well! At 100 yards after firing a few strings...not 1 hole on the paper!
ETA: Sorry, not a rimfire, but still a .22 and...a bad target...
ETA: Sorry, not a rimfire, but still a .22 and...a bad target...
this rifle gives me a hard on. I need more pics! Leup glass allways brings class
Luckily for all CGNers that's all I have for pics of that rifle. It is pictured with a VX-3 3.5-10 but I've since mounted it's permanent scope, a VX-2 4-12X40AO
Mine has a Green Mountain barrel and I suspect it has a bentz chamber. The receiver is Dlask and it has a fantastic 2oz/6oz Kidd 2 stage trigger and really nice Sightron 8-32x scope. This is the 10/22 in question, it is fairly accurate but I have failed at the 1/2" challenge probably a dozen times. I always get 1 or 2 groups that have a flyer that puts me just over the 1/2" maximum group size. Its not the operator, since I had no problem achieving the 1/2" callenge on my second try with my CZ455.
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I thought this was a great thread to vent frustrations about under-performing rifles like that dismal CZ 455 of mine. I think I'll add that Weatherby to this list too cause after that one good day at the range it's wheels fell off again and it ain't gunna get the 1/2" challenge done 
I thought this was a great thread to vent frustrations about under-performing rifles like that dismal CZ 455 of mine. I think I'll add that Weatherby to this list too cause after that one good day at the range it's wheels fell off again and it ain't gunna get the 1/2" challenge done
Yup. That too.
My turn as well .I bought this beautifull old Mossberg 146ba tube fed beauty.Sadly even with my Vortex HST 6-24x50 and my rather large supply of premium ammo I don't think the old girl is up to the challenge.
I did find its prefered ammo in SK rifle match,was not going to feed it Midas +
I did manage 2 groups under a 1/2" Best was a .357 and a .407 but not on the same target.
I did find its prefered ammo in SK rifle match,was not going to feed it Midas +
I did manage 2 groups under a 1/2" Best was a .357 and a .407 but not on the same target.
Not bad! Sometimes a rifle shows promise but cannot do more than flirt with something a little more noteworthy. Some folks might take those results (two groups of many on different targets) and claim their rifle was a sub-MOA shooter -- which of course you are not saying. But considering how fickle some rifles can be with how they are held, I wonder if your Mossberg could do a little more flirting with the SK ammo.
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Sorry! Already sold to Elimsprint. You coulda used Center-X outta that thing and got 2.8" groups at 50 yards!
Damn! My 455 came close at 4.1" for 50 shots with Thunderturds at 100 yards!
Did you feel your 455 was generically poor or you just had a bad one?
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It's reasonably accurate but the thin snauble for end doesn't ride the rest well. I have since removed the optic and have been really enjoying shooting it with the irons free hand at about 40 yds. Very light and accurate rabbit ,grouse gun. It likes the bulk federal auto match. It takes 19 rounds of 22lr. It's fun free hand and cycling all 19 rounds shooting orange ball targets at 40 yds.
The search for the best ammo will continue for ever.
Seeing a box of Remington Target manufactured by Eley draws a question: Is it TEAM, MATCH, or TENEX?
Buying a used rifle that won't shoot could be any number of issues. RABID would suggest a bore scope so that is a starting point.
Does the use of copper washed bullets deposit copper. I cleaned one of my CZ's and did get some blue on the patch after an appropriate wait.
Following that scrub, I broke it in again using lead bullets and cleaning and then went back to MiniMags. It still does not like HP's and performs far better with MiniMags RN but the kicker was that it does better with CCI Blazers, a lead bullet. The Chrony suggests there is not sufficient difference in velocity that neither gophers nor pigeons can tell the difference.
That being said the CZ American may never make the Challenge but it will be bedded with pillars. The CCI MiniMags HP will be used in Speed Steel.
The CZ Varmint improved vastly with the bedding job but ELEY Match grades produced a best of 0.70 with TENEX. Switched to CenterX and produced a 0.26. At 100 yards, One group at 100 was 0.45.
Hope this helps if for no other reason that to suggest when to cut your losses and move on. Even buying a new rifle is no guarantee.
Seeing a box of Remington Target manufactured by Eley draws a question: Is it TEAM, MATCH, or TENEX?
Buying a used rifle that won't shoot could be any number of issues. RABID would suggest a bore scope so that is a starting point.
Does the use of copper washed bullets deposit copper. I cleaned one of my CZ's and did get some blue on the patch after an appropriate wait.
Following that scrub, I broke it in again using lead bullets and cleaning and then went back to MiniMags. It still does not like HP's and performs far better with MiniMags RN but the kicker was that it does better with CCI Blazers, a lead bullet. The Chrony suggests there is not sufficient difference in velocity that neither gophers nor pigeons can tell the difference.
That being said the CZ American may never make the Challenge but it will be bedded with pillars. The CCI MiniMags HP will be used in Speed Steel.
The CZ Varmint improved vastly with the bedding job but ELEY Match grades produced a best of 0.70 with TENEX. Switched to CenterX and produced a 0.26. At 100 yards, One group at 100 was 0.45.
Hope this helps if for no other reason that to suggest when to cut your losses and move on. Even buying a new rifle is no guarantee.
