My 98k (pic heavy)

Buck Turgidson

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Here are some photos of my 98k

I have a few question about it. i'm interested in getting a bayonet for it. Which is the appropriate model (wood, plastic) for a 1940 manufacturer code "42". I realize its just an RC but if you take off all the parts its back to "original". Also any suggestion, help, comments, concerns, suggested value, anything at all would be appreciated as i am just starting to get into this stuff.

I am also interested in maybe some minor restoration. how would i go about getting the bolt the colour of the underside of the rear sight and the bolt release. which from i understand is how it is suppose to look? (correct me if i am wrong)

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RCs are solid pieces of history. Many of them are in excellent condition as well. They are also great shooters as long as the bores are good. When and if you take it out of the stock to clean it, don't lose the spacer between the rear of the trigger guard and receiver.
 
"...just an RC...." My friend, that rifle is so full of history! I love it the way it is. You could look for an original sling for it, and pick up a correct bayonet (since the rifle is a mismatch, you could get away with a mismatched bayo/scabbard cheaper). Beyond that, I think it looks great, Looks to be all early configuration as well. Thanks for showing!
 
I believe (can't remember for sure though) that the rear sight blade is that purple-ish colour due the blueing solution being too hot when the part was dipped. The bolt should be the colour it is. Early WW1 Gew98's had a bolt in the white but K98's have a blued bolt.

I believe they switched to the bakelite handles from '39 onwards so go with a bakelite bayonet. It looks cooler too :)

I wouldn't worry about restoring it. It looks like the front sight isn't cut for a front sight hood and you already have a cleaning rod. Maybe get some triggerguard locking screws (some of my K98's shot better after putting them in) and you are good to go.

Great rifles! Shoot it lots!
 
Good looking old rifle. Don't let the writers of "Collecting Military Rifles" or such articles get you thinking your rifle isn't up to much. Some poor soldier likely carried that rifle in earnest battle, or at least carried it! It has been around half the world and now is in your sole possession. Treasure it the way it is, and shoot it!!:p
 
Beautiful rifle! Everyone seems to look down on RC's. I have gotten a few "wow nice rifle, oh, its an RC", and I never understand it. I recently picked up an RC off a board member, and with proper handloads, It can do an inch (sometimes a hair under) at 100m, they are great rifles with a lot of history. Just make sure to shoot it!
 
The plum colour on the bolt catch and the spring for the rear sight is a russian thing. They plum browned them.... the front sight isn't grooved for a hood either from the looks of it.

Honestly, it's good as is, is historically accurate and very much a piece of history. Your choice, but altering it further would not be restoring, but simply altering.

For most people on here, restoring only comes into play when there is stuff missing or damaged. Until you know what should and shouldn't be, step carefully. A lot of people have buggered up their guns and lost value because they "thought they were making it better" but in fact wrecked it.
 
Looks a lot better than my 1940 RC which is missing the cleaning rod and every part is mis-matched, not to forget the stock has to be re-finished. The type of bayonet that would be proper is the Seitengewehr 84/98 pattern.

Thanks for sharing.
 
Nabs, as far as I know, the cleaning rods were all discarded by the Russians. If a rifle has one, its been replaced by some one else later. Same goes for the retaining screws.
 
Hey guys.

To clear up any confussion. I did buy a (repro) cleaning rod, locking screws, and sight hood (later to find out it would take one (%$&@#$). i am now interested in buying a bayonet. - thanks "nabs" and Steve for sharing that the proper bayo is a Seitengewehr 84/98 pattern/bakelite bayonet). i understand that none of the parts are correct for an RC. but like i said before, all i have to do is take them all off and voila! back to original RC mode (no mods). As far as the bolt is concerned. i shouldn't touch it? p.s didn't mean "just an RC" as it sounded. that was in context with the parts subject. I love this gun! thanks for looking!....i'll post my other 2 rifles later this week (just for fun)

Gen. Turgidson
 
Buck Turgidson said:
I realize its just an RC but if you take off all the parts its back to "original". Also any suggestion, help, comments, concerns, suggested value, anything at all would be appreciated as i am just starting to get into this stuff.
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Here's what it should look like when it was in its original condition as manufactured by Oberndorf ... ;)

http://www.milsurps.com/vbpicgallery.php?do=view&g=87

By the way, nice rifle and RC or not, it's seen a lot of history in it travels. :)

Regards,
Badger
 
Looks like the RC stockpile in Ukraine is pretty much sold out, so my guess is they should start to rise in price as demand outstrips supply.
 
thanks for that badgerdog. great looking gun. i also had a few more questions about the 98 if anybody can answer them.

1. does the bayonet slide over the cleaning rod?
2. how do i get the markings in white (properly) should i even bother?
3. my bolt does not have a smooth action like the rest of my milsurps. is this common? how do i fix this?
 
Once again, nice rifle, easy to find the parts you need like the capture screws, sling, bayonet, ect.
The bayonet was not made to fit over the cleaning rod, so you would have either the rod or the bayonet on, unable to have both in palce at the same time.
I like the numbers in the white, many ways to do this, white crayon or white-out. Really makes the receivercodes stand out nicely. Clean up the edges after it dries with a touch of wd40 on a rag.
Mauser actions are quite smooth, I think there may be others who can answer this better than I could. Mine are not shooters so they are lubed up pretty good. Here are a few whitened up a bit.
Congrats again, and thanks for showing:)
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For white markins a white grease pencil works good, or a white crayon (im told). My rifle has white markings and I think it looks good.
 
1. It's too bad it's either the bayo or the rod. it would be very convenient if it slipped right over. but oh well!

2. white crayon it is for the markings. (any markings that DO NOT get that treatment?)

3. i'll have to find a way to fix that action

thanks again guys
 
The smaller stampings are tough to do, I found that whiteout is best for the tiny ones, but it takes a bit of time and needs patience. I finally just stuck to the receiver and perhaps barrel codes. Good luck and post pics when done please:)
 
Buck Turgidson said:
1. It's too bad it's either the bayo or the rod. it would be very convenient if it slipped right over. but oh well!

2. white crayon it is for the markings. (any markings that DO NOT get that treatment?)

3. i'll have to find a way to fix that action

thanks again guys
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#1.... mine fits over, so did my gew 98... Maybe I'm just weird though.

What do you mean by the bolt not being smooth? It's possible there's still cosmo hiding where the bolt lugs engage the reciever just behind the chamber. I've mostly had it in mosins. Strip the wood off the gun and give it the hottest bath you can with soapy water. More, hotter water = less cosmoline hiding in your gun.

Just remember to really thoroughly clean whatever you wash it in, cosmolene will leave it looking like a plugged toilet.
 
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