My AR-180CAP -> Central Alberta Pimps!
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I guess you all have to carry the tune of the thread... no original thought.
hmm maybe I'll just follow in line and make the same comment - listen to myself talk - blah blah blah- ooooh a mutilation oooh a sabatoge - you guys are weak minded.
I cut a 1/16 of an inch farther than I wanted to, no crime no harm done.
If you knew what I was trying to accomplish which is to flat top the overly high side wings of the sight you'd know its a good mod. personally I don't like the shape of the rear stamped sight and have been contemplating removal like others have done. - wait I had an IDEA :idea:
since I cut too far my bolt that holds the flip sight needs extra support. instead of crying about MY rifle why wouldn;t you use your brains to offer a solution that is real and workable.
I can support the bolt one of 3 ways are work and will result in better aesthetics than the orginal.
oh wait rather than understand what I am trying to accomplish however cavalier I may be, lets just make another sad post.
I am impressed with the result. I guess for some in life the complexity of a rear stamped metal sight nears the realm of rocket science.
*sigh*
oh BTW cheek weld and eye relief is something of a dream on this setup.
to each their own
fed007
hmm maybe I'll just follow in line and make the same comment - listen to myself talk - blah blah blah- ooooh a mutilation oooh a sabatoge - you guys are weak minded.
I cut a 1/16 of an inch farther than I wanted to, no crime no harm done.
If you knew what I was trying to accomplish which is to flat top the overly high side wings of the sight you'd know its a good mod. personally I don't like the shape of the rear stamped sight and have been contemplating removal like others have done. - wait I had an IDEA :idea:
since I cut too far my bolt that holds the flip sight needs extra support. instead of crying about MY rifle why wouldn;t you use your brains to offer a solution that is real and workable.
I can support the bolt one of 3 ways are work and will result in better aesthetics than the orginal.
oh wait rather than understand what I am trying to accomplish however cavalier I may be, lets just make another sad post.
I am impressed with the result. I guess for some in life the complexity of a rear stamped metal sight nears the realm of rocket science.
*sigh*
oh BTW cheek weld and eye relief is something of a dream on this setup.
to each their own
fed007
Because I was also drunk.
Honestly, I don't see what you guys are all #####ing about. Its his rifle, he paid for it. He can do what ever the hell he wants to it. You guys giving him #### can go eat monkey anus.
The only problem I see is that he didn't remove the rear site completely. My rifle has no irons at all and I'd hardly think it's now worth nothing. :roll:
Hey man... it's your rifle. Run over it with a steamroller if you want to. It's your business. BUT.... don't post if you do not want us to comment or make suggestions.
The whole idea of a forum is to get discussion going on our posts; that means good and bad comments. Just my $0.02.
Regards,
The whole idea of a forum is to get discussion going on our posts; that means good and bad comments. Just my $0.02.
Regards,
I agree with Armedsask as I think it'd look better if you... ahem... have a few shots of tequila tonoight and go back out to the garage and finish hack-sawing that rear sight all the way off.
If it were me and I wanted a complete flattop I think I'd pay somebody who knows how to make it look good/smooth after the cut to do it, but hey - it's your rifle.
Are you going to re-blue over where there's exposed metal now?
To the rest of you - just be happy this is a black rifle topic and not in the milsurp forum.
If it were me and I wanted a complete flattop I think I'd pay somebody who knows how to make it look good/smooth after the cut to do it, but hey - it's your rifle.
Are you going to re-blue over where there's exposed metal now?
To the rest of you - just be happy this is a black rifle topic and not in the milsurp forum.
I will repeat this message as some of you still don't get it...
*Aren't we all one firearms community here? Start acting like it and grow up! no wonder we have problems standing the govt up on firearms bills and related issues because we can't play as a team.
Bickering will only fuel the govt to ban and restrict us further as they know that we are pre-occupied with inner strife.
This makes me very sad! focus all your anger on the govt and start being useful!
*Aren't we all one firearms community here? Start acting like it and grow up! no wonder we have problems standing the govt up on firearms bills and related issues because we can't play as a team.
Bickering will only fuel the govt to ban and restrict us further as they know that we are pre-occupied with inner strife.
This makes me very sad! focus all your anger on the govt and start being useful!
fed007 said:
If you are looking for praise for taking a hacksaw to your $1100 rifle you are dilusional. Most folks take better care and a little more pride in thier property than that........ you should have expected some critisism.
I guess the bottom line is it is your gun to do with as you please, but property is only worth $$ if there is someone willing to buy it, and with that high class work on the rear sight I think the market is greatly diminished.
I'd love to be in the shop when you take that into the smith........ :lol:
As for a fix, it will probably have to be built up with a weld. Either that or get a real gunsmith to remove the complete sight housing and see about fitting an ARMS40L.....I think that would look good and work well.
But it's funny laughing at the drunk guy....
seriously, though, if it's your gun, and you do something, and you're happy with the result, more power to ya - I didn't bubba-size my unissued all-matching-serial-numbers limited numbers Yugo M59/66 but that's my choice, I did slap a bunch of silly #### on my 870 and I know it's not necessarily all the practical or even all that tactical but hey, I think it's cool
if I was gonna make any alterations to a 180B (assuming I was cool enough to own one) it'd be in the way of making it more CQB, not long-range-worthy but if fed007 likes it, hey, good on ya, fed.
having said that, if you do post pics of said self-smithing and admit you were drunk doin' it and that you, even just a little, goofed, ya gotta expect to take some slack
seriously, though, if it's your gun, and you do something, and you're happy with the result, more power to ya - I didn't bubba-size my unissued all-matching-serial-numbers limited numbers Yugo M59/66 but that's my choice, I did slap a bunch of silly #### on my 870 and I know it's not necessarily all the practical or even all that tactical but hey, I think it's cool
if I was gonna make any alterations to a 180B (assuming I was cool enough to own one) it'd be in the way of making it more CQB, not long-range-worthy but if fed007 likes it, hey, good on ya, fed.
having said that, if you do post pics of said self-smithing and admit you were drunk doin' it and that you, even just a little, goofed, ya gotta expect to take some slack
You aren't, so shut up.
:lol: Kidding.
Honestly, I really think the hack saw was not a a good idea. On the other hand, the only reason my free foat RIS works on my rifle is because I own a hacksaw. The main thing here is to not condem another firearm owner for making his rifle work for him. What we must condem him for is not sending me money and asking for my advise.
I've done far worse things with my rifle while drunk. :wink:
wow, this thread has lasted this long. With the new PC gunnuts, how is this possible. We've got drinking, and posting pics, swearing, flaming and everything.
I was going to say IBTL but.......I'm not sure. Dude who cut his gun, you've got some gonads. I like the pics and write up.
cheers
I was going to say IBTL but.......I'm not sure. Dude who cut his gun, you've got some gonads. I like the pics and write up.
cheers
yeah I guess this thread lasted due to its obscurity I tried to get creative with my writing and make the thread more entertaining... didn;t exactly work - To an extent it backfired and made me look like a drunken fool with a hacksaw and no patience. defintely not the case. I saw a way to make it work and took action. measured the risk... chose the right tool for the right job...
I will post pics soon of the completed mod, the bolt and the sight fit in fine however I need a bit more support from the top to complete the bolt hole.
I am going to use the wings I removed as top plates to box in the mount. thus the bolt is held in securely. Everything is mechanically the same as it came from the factory,
I made a note of how many threads were exposed on one side of the sight so I could just dial in my old settings as their reference point in the overall width has not changed.
once I file down my new "boxed" portion I'll have a pretty neat flat top rear sight, I hadn't thought of blueing the exposed metal - I was just going to give it a shot black krylon paint, will this be sufficient? I think so.
also for this mod I am sacrificing one of the flip sights... I need some help deciding which one to keep.
0-100 or 0-200 ? I am leaning to the 100...
which one would you keep?
fed007
I tried to get creative with my writing and make the thread more entertaining... didn;t exactly work - To an extent it backfired and made me look like a drunken fool with a hacksaw and no patience. defintely not the case. I saw a way to make it work and took action. measured the risk... chose the right tool for the right job...I will post pics soon of the completed mod, the bolt and the sight fit in fine however I need a bit more support from the top to complete the bolt hole.
I am going to use the wings I removed as top plates to box in the mount. thus the bolt is held in securely. Everything is mechanically the same as it came from the factory,
I made a note of how many threads were exposed on one side of the sight so I could just dial in my old settings as their reference point in the overall width has not changed.
once I file down my new "boxed" portion I'll have a pretty neat flat top rear sight, I hadn't thought of blueing the exposed metal - I was just going to give it a shot black krylon paint, will this be sufficient? I think so.
also for this mod I am sacrificing one of the flip sights... I need some help deciding which one to keep.
0-100 or 0-200 ? I am leaning to the 100...
which one would you keep?
fed007
No worries.
Nothing that can't be fixed.
Let's put it this way - guy learned a valuable lesson:
GUNS GET LOCKED UP BEFORE THE BOOZE COMES OUT, regardless of what you are doing with them, and maybe he learned it before putting a 55gr spitzer through his skull.
On the other side of the coin, most of you that have done dum crap to guns without even the excuse of being boozy. In fact, if you are a serious firearms enthusiast you almost certainly have. So cut the guy some slack.
Frankly, I think it's a funny story, and it takes a certain amount of personal courage to post it knowing the flaming he's going to get - but he did so, and other Bubba's are now forwarned.
I'd call the guy a dumass to his face and laugh about it, but that's the extent of it. Not like he took Hitler's Luger and painted it gold and carved smiley faces in the frame with a dremel.
Nothing that can't be fixed.
Let's put it this way - guy learned a valuable lesson:
GUNS GET LOCKED UP BEFORE THE BOOZE COMES OUT, regardless of what you are doing with them, and maybe he learned it before putting a 55gr spitzer through his skull.
On the other side of the coin, most of you that have done dum crap to guns without even the excuse of being boozy. In fact, if you are a serious firearms enthusiast you almost certainly have. So cut the guy some slack.
Frankly, I think it's a funny story, and it takes a certain amount of personal courage to post it knowing the flaming he's going to get - but he did so, and other Bubba's are now forwarned.
I'd call the guy a dumass to his face and laugh about it, but that's the extent of it. Not like he took Hitler's Luger and painted it gold and carved smiley faces in the frame with a dremel.
Krylon too??? Umm... dude, one word for you: Oxpho-Blue. About as close to the parkerized look as you'll get without parkerizing
Put down the can of krylon and back away. For god's sake, will someone please think of the CHILDR.... errr.... rifles!?!?
Put down the can of krylon and back away. For god's sake, will someone please think of the CHILDR.... errr.... rifles!?!?
Nothing wrong with Krylon for small touch ups, its what I used for my rail. It's not like he is painting the entire gun.
Also, I got my custom stock adapter from Storm Werkz today! Now I just need an M4 stock and she will be fine. Basically, Josh made me up one of his Type 2 adapters but raised the buffer tube up so it is inline with the barrel.
Also, I got my custom stock adapter from Storm Werkz today! Now I just need an M4 stock and she will be fine. Basically, Josh made me up one of his Type 2 adapters but raised the buffer tube up so it is inline with the barrel.
my Type 2 adapter is sitting here on the shelf - I can;t wait to hacksaw the stock off. :shock: NO REALLY - I am going to do this
Let me know if you find a deal on the carbine stocks that fit this I might get one also. As far the higher buffer tube - mine is centered... I can't picture what your adapter would look like, there isn't much room for offsetting either up or down.
I plan on getting the O.D. M4 collapsible and paint the hand guards to match.
update on my sight mod: I completed the bolt hole last night, next is file it down to its lowest profile.
In hindsight the procedure should have been to hacksaw to get close and use a file to finish the last 1/8 of an inch. Advice to others, Do not try to split hairs with your hacksaw,
oh btw I am starting a gunsmithing business, send your rifles to me 8)
my rate is $500/hr which also coincides with the rate of attrocity.
Let me know if you find a deal on the carbine stocks that fit this I might get one also. As far the higher buffer tube - mine is centered... I can't picture what your adapter would look like, there isn't much room for offsetting either up or down.
I plan on getting the O.D. M4 collapsible and paint the hand guards to match.
update on my sight mod: I completed the bolt hole last night, next is file it down to its lowest profile.
In hindsight the procedure should have been to hacksaw to get close and use a file to finish the last 1/8 of an inch. Advice to others, Do not try to split hairs with your hacksaw,
oh btw I am starting a gunsmithing business, send your rifles to me 8)
my rate is $500/hr which also coincides with the rate of attrocity.
