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Well my never ending bad luck, seems to keep rolling through :D

Well looks like I shouldn't expect my scope back until next week now... since ShotShow has made everyone busy and picked up companies business (not referring to Premier but the Dealer I got it from) it looks like they won't be looking at the scope and changing out the clickers until the end of the week rather then what was originally was stated would be the beginning of the week.

Tiny bit sad about this considering from the day I received my scope it wasn't making audible clicks properly =/ So now even though I have "owned" it for almost a month, I shouldn't be able to use it for that first month haha.

Don't get me wrong I totally get that military orders are more important then me, because those contracts are so large, just thought I would vent a bit to feel a little better...

My streak of bad luck continues! Wish I had just held onto the scope now and saved myself some money and waited for the clickers to come to my house. Live and learn I guess!

Hell I have had such bad luck with this rifle build I have to send my Versa-Pod back as it was shipped to me new and broken as well (Pan + Cant knobs aren't working as intended). This problem is compounded by the fact that I live in Canada -.-

I guess looking on the bright side at least my rifle and scope mounts aren't broken haha...

Thanks for letting me whine and b*tch... I was just looking forward to using my rifle at its final build and see what it is actually capable of (not to mention range report and lots of pictures)... you know there is a problem when a $1600 Savage BAT with cheek piece on the left when I'm right handed shoots better then a $6000 Steyr SSG 08 because I am stuck with a broken bipod and a $85 bushnell 3-9x32 that has 10% inaccuracy....

So I guess waiting now until next week isn't a big deal since I won't have my bipod back for a week or two anyway (which is tempting me to just get an Atlas) =/

As to Paul thank you for everything you have done for me. You alone make going with Premier worth while for the customer service you have offered me :)

Thanks,
- Koshy
 
TR11 said:
You better get used to my savage eating ya :) j/k
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$15 later and 7 days shipping =(

Anyway, what I need to get use to is your rifle, because I think I will be shooting it a lot until my crap gets sorted out =)

Personally I rather have electronics warranty issues over firearm any day... much easier and quicker to be resolved :)

Did I mention it's time to pull out the Scotch? :D

Thanks,
- Koshy
 
I'm sure it will all be worthwhile when you get it sorted.

Instead of getting the atlas bipod, why don't you get yourself a savage package gun and shoot that till you get these issues sorted out. You need more than one gun anyway and the accuracy might even surprise you.

Good luck.

EDIT: actually I take that back. You don't seem like the savage package gun type.
 
Koshy said:
Anyway, what I need to get use to is your rifle, because I think I will be shooting it a lot until my crap gets sorted out =)
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Yeah, no problem. We'll put a couple boxes through her in the upcoming week or so. Im thinking maybe you just want to shoot it because your first two shots out of it went through the same hole at like 1/32" apart? :cool:

Bring on the scotch
 
Koshy said:
the "clicks" are audible (very) when tracking down on the elevation, but when it comes to tracking up on the turret it isn't very audible if at all... although please note you can still feel the "clicks" very easily.
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Funny, on the S&B, the clicks are different for windage and elevation (elev. are more like "thuds" while windage ones are true "clicks").

Koshy said:
It appears when resting my head on the cheek weld and taking a shot, it is slowly moving the adjustable cheek piece forward (recoil?), after about 50 shots the bolt cannot fully operate (yes I made sure to tighten it down as much as possible). Contacting Steyr to see if this is a known problem, or something specific to me that can be resolved. Isn't a major issue as you just use an allen key to losen and move it back then tighten again, but still a tiny bit annoying :p
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I'd say that's actually very annoying, regardless of what you paid for it. See to it that they fix it ASAP and don't accept any excuses.

Koshy said:
When ejecting the cartridge it leaves the tinyest (not a word) of scratches on the cartridge near the neck, but is very, very fine, so it doesn't appear to be doing any damage and you cannot physically feel the scratch just see it.
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Post a pic - it might become an issue if you reload in the future.

Koshy said:
Versa-Pod bipod, although very easy to use, I am noticing tiny metal shavings coming off it slowly but surely. With full lifetime warrenty I am not concerned though.
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Where exactly? I want to see if it's the same case for the Parker-Hale it's based on.

Koshy said:
Versa-Pod seems to have a lot of "give" in it... meaning you have to really load it (either forward or back), which can be frustrating, especially with the shorter buttplate (which can be added to very easily), but I will be fooling around with it some more and reserve judgement on whether it is a good bi-pod or not for later.
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Just lean into it firmly with your body weight, but don't put muscular effort into it and it'll be fine.

Koshy said:
S&B (Germany = hard to communicate)
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Not at all... All reps communicated with me in good English. Waiting times are another issue though... Still waiting...

p.s. So you got the scope but sent it back? Your mount didn't come in yet?
 
The metal shavings off the versa pod were on the bottom. Where the legs would be pressing on the main joint in operating position, but only visible when folded up. The black coating was worn off.
 
15 pages and no pictures of groups. Lets see how this rifle shoots. Looked at a Steyr at the SHOT Show. It was a heavy bastard.
 
Bob Raymond said:
Wanna' borrow my Savage?:nest:

Interesting comment regarding the audible clicks.
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haha I couldn't bother you for that I would feel bad for wasting your barrel and stuff :p

As for the Heritage, it is suppose to have very defined clicks, which it does on the windage as well as second turn of the elevation and going down on the elevation... from what they say its the clickers inside, the metallurgy was done improperly... literally a quick 10 minute fix I could have done myself (and they would walk me through it on the phone to)... shame :p

warrenb said:
I'm sure it will all be worthwhile when you get it sorted.

Instead of getting the atlas bipod, why don't you get yourself a savage package gun and shoot that till you get these issues sorted out. You need more than one gun anyway and the accuracy might even surprise you.

Good luck.

EDIT: actually I take that back. You don't seem like the savage package gun type.
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Yes, a year from now I will look back, and I should say well even though it was a huge pain in the a$$ it was all worth while :)

I like guns of all walks, so long as I feel like it isn't the limiting factor ;) For example TR's 10-22 Ruger is a lot of fun to shoot (minus the whack flyers from time to time) :)

TR11 said:
Yeah, no problem. We'll put a couple boxes through her in the upcoming week or so. Im thinking maybe you just want to shoot it because your first two shots out of it went through the same hole at like 1/32" apart? :cool:

Bring on the scotch
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Hahaha, yes I warrantied everything because I wanted a really good excuse to shoot your rifle :D

redman said:
Funny, on the S&B, the clicks are different for windage and elevation (elev. are more like "thuds" while windage ones are true "clicks").



I'd say that's actually very annoying, regardless of what you paid for it. See to it that they fix it ASAP and don't accept any excuses.



Post a pic - it might become an issue if you reload in the future.



Where exactly? I want to see if it's the same case for the Parker-Hale it's based on.



Just lean into it firmly with your body weight, but don't put muscular effort into it and it'll be fine.



Not at all... All reps communicated with me in good English. Waiting times are another issue though... Still waiting...

p.s. So you got the scope but sent it back? Your mount didn't come in yet?
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For PRH it is more like almost the same clicks, just a little more effort is required to move the windage knobs.

I wouldn't say it is SUPER annoying, 30 second job to move it all the way to the back and looks like it takes over 50 shots to become an issue :p But I plan on bugging them again if they aren't back to me by next week...

Sure I will post some pictures :) But I don't think it will be an issue with reloading... but is for sure something to keep an eye on.

As TR11 said, "The metal shavings off the versa pod were on the bottom. Where the legs would be pressing on the main joint in operating position, but only visible when folded up. The black coating was worn off."

I was leaning into it with my body weight... but it was manipulating forward a good 1 1/2" to 2".... when compared to a Harris, that is a hell of a lot :p

That's good they can communicate well :) Shame you are still waiting though, makes you want to have 2 scopes so you don't have to wait!! :D

P.S. I got the scope, but I sent it back yes, and my Mount just arrived on like Saturday/Sunday :D Left me excited until I called the scope dealer Monday and found out they are busy until near the end of the week =( And I pulled the trigger on returning the Versa-Pod yesterday =/

EC said:
15 pages and no pictures of groups. Lets see how this rifle shoots. Looked at a Steyr at the SHOT Show. It was a heavy bastard.
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Yea sorry about the whole no pictures thing :p Frustrates me to :p But I'm guessing you guys don't want to see 50 yards, with the rifle not living up to its potential because of a broken versa, a 75$ bushnell and me having been away from shooting for a few years?


Oh also I just make the weight limit for precision if I use the Versa-Pod :p
16.4625 lbs lol.... (THANKS NEAR!)

Don't get me wrong though, the Rifle is very balanced and is not tiring to hold or carry (for me anyways).


Thanks,
- Koshy
 
General Scope Update:

USMC chooses the Premier Heritage 3-15x50 as their New Scout Sniper Day scope (Information released ShotShow 2010). Looks like I picked up the scope at the right time, because it appears prices have gone up in the States...

Congrats to Premier!

Thanks,
- Koshy
 
Had an idea before heading off to bed!

I will use my Eberlestock pack to shoot off of... if the Canadian Military can do it for their competitions I'm sure I can for having some fun :p Especially when they are shooting at least 10x further then me :D

Bipod Update:
Versapods, Harris Bipods and Atlas Bipods should all be able to be "immune" to muzzle jump -- meaning the rifle should only move into the operator's body, it should not "jump" causing you to lose your target, the key is proper body position, in other words, if you are getting muzzle jump, it's your fault not the bipods (yes even on hard materials like wooden decking or concrete). The only reason you should pick any one of these over the other is because of their profile/features/weight. Yes this came from the opinion of one man... but it was also the opinion of someone who is very talented in what he does (SHLowlight). So take it or leave it... but his videos convinced me.

That being said, I should be very happy with my Versapod when it comes back hopefully in about three weeks and if I'm not, well I guess I should probably take a course on proper shooting from a bipod :D

Thanks,
- Koshy
 
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SCOPE UPDATE:

Just got a call from the Dealer, all has been fixed, he said I had a valid complaint, and there was a marked, very noticeable difference now. They will be sending it out today! Should have it in about a week... cannot wait to mount it to my NEAR and then my rifle :)

Thanks,
- Koshy
 
Bipods that don't jump...?!?!?! Hmmm, tell me more. I've never been able to figure out how to fire my rifle, on a bench or prone on grass, without it jumping right out of place (Harris bipod, rear BR bag).
 
^ +1

I, too, am curious... Unless you have a muzzle brake that directs the gasses to dampen the "hop", I'm puzzled as to how you can keep the target in the sights (unless it's some low magnification...).
 
rnbra-shooter said:
Bipods that don't jump...?!?!?! Hmmm, tell me more. I've never been able to figure out how to fire my rifle, on a bench or prone on grass, without it jumping right out of place (Harris bipod, rear BR bag).
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redman said:
^ +1

I, too, am curious... Unless you have a muzzle brake that directs the gasses to dampen the "hop", I'm puzzled as to how you can keep the target in the sights (unless it's some low magnification...).
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May I suggest you watch a couple youtube videos, made by a professional :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqFH0A7Py1Q&feature=channel
"Bi-pods don't hop"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjG1JZxiui0&feature=channel
"Loading the bipod"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZcNAq8eOGo&feature=channel
"Shooting Moving Chaos"

I have talked with him extensively, he is very well known in many a community, and those first couple videos are actually part of a training tool you can sign up for, although I haven't yet.

But if you watch the videos carefully you can see that he does not lose his target and he can easily follow up the shot (also the bipod moves against him, not to the left or right and no "up" aka hopping). For the first video though, make sure you watch until the end, where he does it on a hard deck and no silencer :)

SCOPE UPDATE:
FEDEX is estimating delivery to be TOMORROW. If this is true, then WOO :D

Thanks,
- Koshy
 
neotekz said:
when are you going to let this thing stretch its legs?
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As soon as I get my scope back, and on the rifle? I will be shooting off a bag, but that's better then not shooting at all and is probably going to turn out better then having used a broken bipod... :p

Unfortunately around these parts in the winter time the most her legs can be stretched out to is 200 as far as I know :p

Thanks,
- Koshy
 
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