my first build stevens 200

mlehtovaara said:
I went and bought a caliper tom measure that 200m group for you 2bad4u2!

An inch!
Completely factory, with a Cheap Bushnell 3x9, and Factory Federal ammo!
I will say that is the best I've ever shot but MOA is the norm!

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The OP just needs some small adjustments and some trigger time
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LMAO...You continue your argument even after you ASK me not to reply to your comment. Truly classic.

FWIW, I didn't slam the OP. In fact, if you even bothered to read my entire post, you'd see that I wished him well on his project.

There are a few guys here like the OP and Mystic who have done some very interesting projects with basic Stevens actions. There's no argument there. I actually LIKE the mods that the OP has performed. He's put a lot of hard work into improving the tupperwear stock. I hope it works out for him in the long run.

BTW, I have no doubt believing that's the best you've achieved so far. You should clip it out and put it in your wallet.
 
2bad4u2 said:
LMAO...You continue your argument even after you ASK me not to reply to your comment. Truly classic.

FWIW, I didn't slam the OP. In fact, if you even bothered to read my entire post, you'd see that I wished him well on his project.

There are a few guys here like the OP and Mystic who have done some very interesting projects with basic Stevens actions. There's no argument there. I actually LIKE the mods that the OP has performed. He's put a lot of hard work into improving the tupperwear stock. I hope it works out for him in the long run.

BTW, I have no doubt believing that's the best you've achieved so far. You should clip it out and put it in your wallet.
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I havent even put 100 rounds through the gun yet, and as I said that is factory gun - factory ammo - bipod. I have no problem admitting I am a total noob to rifle shooting. But again thanks for your condescending attitude!
 
darryl781 said:
i also shoot a factory(no mods)savage 12bvss .204 that shoots .3 at a 100yds with factory 34gr. wincestors all day long
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well i guess we all should go sell our customs and buy factory savages :rolleyes:


2bad4u2, can i steal your signature ?
 
iconfig said:
well i guess we all should go sell our customs and buy factory savages :rolleyes:


2bad4u2, can i steal your signature ?
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Hey, copy it if you like to. I've got nothing against Savages. I've owned some in the past. I just think there's a lot of BS with some people's claims of accuracy under improbable situations.
 
so i got out again today to try out some more factory loads after i pulled the gun apart and beded in a threaded rod in the forearm and under the recoil lug, i also opened up the barrel channel a tad more. and put some wieght in the rear of the stockand put on med height leupold rings and bases, and what a surprise! here are some pic of the targets with the specs
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and to my surprise best 3 shot group of the day with factoy loads..
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mlehtovaara said:
I havent even put 100 rounds through the gun yet, and as I said that is factory gun - factory ammo - bipod. I have no problem admitting I am a total noob to rifle shooting. But again thanks for your condescending attitude!
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Don't worry about it...she probably got her A$$ whipped by a savage or stevens build and now has a chip on her shoulder over it. Some people can't get over a 300$ rifle out-shooting their several thousand dollar rigs so it will make them feel better to be internet tuff guys. I've seen more then enough stevens rifles shoot moa and better. I have a savage thats shoots in the .1's
 
juanvaldez said:
Don't worry about it...she probably got her A$$ whipped by a savage or stevens build and now has a chip on her shoulder over it. Some people can't get over a 300$ rifle out-shooting their several thousand dollar rigs so it will make them feel better to be internet tuff guys. I've seen more then enough stevens rifles shoot moa and better. I have a savage thats shoots in the .1's
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You're livin' a trailer park fantasy if you think a substandard entry level hunting rifle has any chance in competing against a purpose built custom rifle - regardless of its price. Unless you have a competent shooter against a total noob, that situation is highly unlikely and I doubt you've seen it. Interesting, you say a "savage or stevens build" but then say it's a "300$ rifle". Which is it?
 
2bad4u2 said:
You're livin' a trailer park fantasy if you think a substandard entry level hunting rifle has any chance in competing against a purpose built custom rifle - regardless of its price. Unless you have a competent shooter against a total noob, that situation is highly unlikely and I doubt you've seen it. Interesting, you say a "savage or stevens build" but then say it's a "300$ rifle". Which is it?
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Hehe...see what I mean. BACK TO YOUR CAVE TROLL. Some of us would like to discuss PRECISION rifles.

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To the OP. Some trigger work or a drop in from SSS will go a long way toward shrinking those groups. Bedding could also be night and day. Go tyo savage shooters for a tutorial. Good luck with it!!

Cheers
 
My 700 .223 1in9" loves the 55grn PMC-BT. It'll shoot .5" factory. And, it's dirt cheap! It's a great way to get a good handful of cheap brass together, and shoot nice small groups(small enough for factory ammo). The necks on the PMC brass are even annealed already. The only problem really is the crimped primer pocket but that can be swaged out.

Nice build. It's very encouraging.
 
2bad4u2 said:
You're livin' a trailer park fantasy if you think a substandard entry level hunting rifle has any chance in competing against a purpose built custom rifle - regardless of its price. Unless you have a competent shooter against a total noob, that situation is highly unlikely and I doubt you've seen it. Interesting, you say a "savage or stevens build" but then say it's a "300$ rifle". Which is it?
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its interesting to think that most "precision" rifles built on remington actions go though accurizing. recutting the bolt bore, new oversized bolt, truing the lugs, face, recutting the action threads, chambering a quality barrel with a sharp reamer and making sure the barrel thread is concentric with the bore.

gosh savage must be selling their rifles at a loss when they can produce rifles that shoot .1 moa from factory :jerkit:

as for spinning a new pre-chambered barrel onto a savage how do you know exactly how much run out there is between the bore and O.D. ? you don't.

sharp reamers ? if you're lucky but how many barrels are chambered before they send the reamer out for sharpening or replacement ? you don't know.

yes some factory savages shoot well but with the amount of bullcrap ( my savage shoots .1 moa from factory ) its hard not to laugh.

just because you got crap house lucky once and put 2 or 3 rounds in a .1-.2 moa group at 100 yards with a factory rifle doesn't mean its .1 moa rifle.

what really makes a rifle a .2 or .3 moa rifle is its ability to CONSISTENTLY ( day in and day out ) shoot .2 or .3 moa groups not a one time fluke. and yes there are some savages ( like mystics ) with a bunch of work put in to them capable of that but if you say your factory savage can do it i call BS.
 
iconfig said:
its interesting to think that most "precision" rifles built on remington actions go though accurizing. recutting the bolt bore, new oversized bolt, truing the lugs, face, recutting the action threads, chambering a quality barrel with a sharp reamer and making sure the barrel thread is concentric with the bore.

gosh savage must be selling their rifles at a loss when they can produce rifles that shoot .1 moa from factory :jerkit:

as for spinning a new pre-chambered barrel onto a savage how do you know exactly how much run out there is between the bore and O.D. ? you don't.

sharp reamers ? if you're lucky but how many barrels are chambered before they send the reamer out for sharpening or replacement ? you don't know.

yes some factory savages shoot well but with the amount of bullcrap ( my savage shoots .1 moa from factory ) its hard not to laugh.

just because you got crap house lucky once and put 2 or 3 rounds in a .1-.2 moa group at 100 yards with a factory rifle doesn't mean its .1 moa rifle.

what really makes a rifle a .2 or .3 moa rifle is its ability to CONSISTENTLY ( day in and day out ) shoot .2 or .3 moa groups not a one time fluke. and yes there are some savages ( like mystics ) with a bunch of work put in to them capable of that but if you say your factory savage can do it i call BS.
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You'd have to be foolish to believe that Remington is the only brand of action worth considering a project on. Many years ago, Winchester Model 70's were very popular rifles to customize as were Mauser M98's and a lesser extent M96's.

I personally believe that any quality built action can be the basis of an accurate rifle. I'd personally put far more emphasis on the workmanship of the gunsmith all things being equal. After that, it's a matter of bullets and barrels.

There isn't a mass produced factory rifle in existence that's capable of sustaining accuracy in .1 MOA. Anyone claiming such nonsense is full of s**t.

If such a thing actually exists I'm sure the manufacturer of said rifle would pay you many times its value to get it back in their hands for R&D purposes.
 
juanvaldez said:
Hehe...see what I mean. BACK TO YOUR CAVE TROLL. Some of us would like to discuss PRECISION rifles.
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I'm callin' your claims bulls**t. Someone who's lookin' to drink your koolaid might be pre-disposed to believe it but I don't.

If you've got a mass produced factory rifle capable of shooting aggragates in the .1's there isn't a benchrest match held where you wouldn't be in contention to win.

Congratulations Skippy, you're a world class champion in making.

Ironic tag line you have. How do you expect us to suffer you?
 
Wow I hope I get all this BS when my Stevens build is done!.... Just got word from Jerry my McGowen tube is en-route.......Although my rifle is being built as a hunting rifle I'm still using precision components.

What ever happened to "if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all"

Hey 2bad4u2 lets see your precision rifle and lets see your groups..............................
 
srt4u2nv said:
Wow I hope I get all this BS when my Stevens build is done!.... Just got word from Jerry my McGowen tube is en-route.......Although my rifle is being built as a hunting rifle I'm still using precision components.

What ever happened to "if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all"

Hey 2bad4u2 lets see your precision rifle and lets see your groups..............................
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I generally don't take pics of my targets in an attempt to impress others. Especially those individuals who shoot in the .1's. That's a tough act to follow and NONE of my rifles are up to that standard. If they are capable of such accuracy (which I doubt), then I just haven't found that mythical load combination for them yet.

However, I suppose I could post some pictures when I get a chance in the next couple of days.
 
It will be nice to see your rig hopefully it matches your #### talking......

You don't save your targets for load development?....I don't think people post pics of targets to get praise but rather constructive feedback on how they can improve......

Do you have any pointers for new shooters on how to improve or do you just discourage people from trying?....
 
srt4u2nv said:
It will be nice to see your rig hopefully it matches your s**t talking......

You don't save your targets for load development?....I don't think people post pics of targets to get praise but rather constructive feedback on how they can improve......

Do you have any pointers for new shooters on how to improve or do you just discourage people from trying?....
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LMAO...#### talking? Where have I once made a claim to anything? You'll never hear me claim that any of my rifles will shoot .25 MOA all day long with surplus ammo on a windy day providing I do my part. However, that's EXACTLY what I expect to read in this forum.

Incidently, I believe the bar has now been raised by Juanvaldez. Now, we have to claim .1's or less to gain street creds here. Tough crowd! What's next? Someone will say they did it with a Savage 99?

Yup, I've got lots of load development targets.

I've never discouraged anyone from shooting. If anything, all the bogus claims made on this site and others will do far more to achieve that than anyone could intentionally do.

Hell, if I was new and listening to all of this nonsense I'd be plenty discouraged when my new (insert your brand of preference here) isn't as accurate as what most of the internet experts here CLAIM their rifles are.

So what happens? I can't possibly achieve what others CLAIM to be doing, I get frustrated, bored, and broke in the process. In the end, you give up and sell my like new stuff on the EE here.

You speak of giving new shooters advice? Sure, no problem. Here's a piece of advice that you can take to the bank...are you ready?...Because, this is gonna be groud breaking...

1. Don't believe half of what you read on the internet, including CGN.
2. You get what you pay for. The shooting sports are no different in this regard.
3. Quality practice sessions are a must to improve technique and your potential shooting skills.
4. Above all else, enjoy yourself and have fun doing it!

There! How's that?
 
2bad4u2 said:
I generally don't take pics of my targets in an attempt to impress others. Especially those individuals who shoot in the .1's. That's a tough act to follow and NONE of my rifles are up to that standard. If they are capable of such accuracy (which I doubt), then I just haven't found that mythical load combination for them yet.

However, I suppose I could post some pictures when I get a chance in the next couple of days.
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Hehhe...get over it and move on :kickInTheNuts:
 
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