My glock blew up

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cbr1100 said:
I was at the range ysterday with my g21 gen 4 and had fired a couple of mags and everything was fine. Then I handed it to my father to try and his very first shot the mag fell out and a piece of plastic hit the bench. I then noticed a huge crack in the receiver and a few other things. I had to use a wooden dowel to get the slide back and the empty case out. The case had blown out the side near the bottom. Attached are 2 pictures one of the frame and one of the extracted case.
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I was shooting very light reloads ie at the starting load. I was using 4gr of titegroup under 230 plated projectiles. Same as I have done for the pass 300 rounds though it.
I know it can't be repaired but does anyone have any idea where or if a new frame is available? I looked over the barrel and slide and it seems fine.
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I'm sorry for your misadventure. The only consolations are that no one was hurt and it wasn't a real gun anyway.

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Thefergs said:
I do not trust myself to reload too much room for error lol human error.

I can afford the added ammo cost compared to affording an injury or error.

I may reload later.

Glad your father was fine. I had my dad out to the range for his birthday a couple weeks ago, first time shooting in 20+ years and had fun and event free day.
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People tend to be nervous of new things. Look at it in perspective: Do you drive?

Reloading is less dangerous than driving a car because on the highway you have to worry about everyone else's competence as well as your own. If you're competent and pay attention then driving and reloading are safe. Reloading is about being technically proficient and paying attention. If you have the mental capacity to safely operate a motor vehicle then you probably can learn to reload safely as well.
 
jethunter said:
People tend to be nervous of new things. Look at it in perspective: Do you drive?

Reloading is less dangerous than driving a car because on the highway you have to worry about everyone else's competence as well as your own. If you're competent and pay attention then driving and reloading are safe. Reloading is about being technically proficient and paying attention. If you have the mental capacity to safely operate a motor vehicle then you probably can learn to reload safely as well.
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Well said..
 
This is why I am not ready to re load my own ammo yet, I made the rookie mistake of taking someones advice at the range and trying their reloads in my gun. Thankfully it was under charged and I got a squib stuck in my brand new Glock 17 barrel, thankfully I was able to pop it out without much force. Few minutes later he came out with one in his barrel, so obviously not a good idea using his ammo ever again. Im going to wait until I really have time to invest in good equipment and research the knowledge behind reloading. I would hate to see that happen to one of my custom modified Glock frames

I am not sure about a Canadian supplier for a Glock frame, but when I was having Zev Technologies in Cali build me some custom Glocks, they sold me just frames for pretty cheap! I bought both Glock 17 and 19 bare frames from them for $150 US each...So its not too bad if you can find a supplier that will sell you just a bare frame....21 is larger frame but I cant see it being that much more then a 17/19 frame

Kinda sucks but you would have to scrap that frame and reg and get another one for the new frame, but its doable
 
Having all the knowledge in the relosding world doesn't mean squat, if you don't put proper practices in place. No distractions, tripple checking settings, pull a round every once in a while to make sure it falls within specifications. Etc....
 
madcow said:
Having all the knowledge in the relosding world doesn't mean squat, if you don't put proper practices in place. No distractions, tripple checking settings, pull a round every once in a while to make sure it falls within specifications. Etc....
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Thats why I personally will wait till I have time to do everything properly, I cant do "no distractions, triple checking, etc etc" when I don't have the time to invest in it at the moment. Its hard enough to make time to get out to the range to even shoot....For now I'll have to stick to $750-800 1000rd cases of factory .45 for the G21, ain't cheap but its also what my Kriss Vector requires...No warranty coverage when using relaods on that one either

Question for the .45 or similar re loaders, with your setup going full blast, how long roughly would it take to reload a batch of 1000 rnds?
 
I take just over an hour to load 1k

but prep work, add about 15 more minutes to fill powder check the charge, fill primer tubes
 
JohnnyP636 said:
Thats why I personally will wait till I have time to do everything properly, I cant do "no distractions, triple checking, etc etc" when I don't have the time to invest in it at the moment. Its hard enough to make time to get out to the range to even shoot....For now I'll have to stick to $750-800 1000rd cases of factory .45 for the G21, ain't cheap but its also what my Kriss Vector requires...No warranty coverage when using relaods on that one either

Question for the .45 or similar re loaders, with your setup going full blast, how long roughly would it take to reload a batch of 1000 rnds?
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Starting with freshly fired brass of known origin (ie mine), at least 8 hrs using a Lee turret press. Includes all cleaning sorting and inspecting. And that would be over a few days too.
 
Albertans obviously know how to drive cause if most of the clowns that drive around the lower mainland (like Ditchmond...) reloaded I would stay away from their range. How did these folks get their licenses.

Social engineering is producing a lot of ADHD instant gratification folks that is best served by factory ammo.
jethunter said:
People tend to be nervous of new things. Look at it in perspective: Do you drive?

Reloading is less dangerous than driving a car because on the highway you have to worry about everyone else's competence as well as your own. If you're competent and pay attention then driving and reloading are safe. Reloading is about being technically proficient and paying attention. If you have the mental capacity to safely operate a motor vehicle then you probably can learn to reload safely as well.
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madcow said:
Having all the knowledge in the relosding world doesn't mean squat, if you don't put proper practices in place. No distractions, tripple checking settings, pull a round every once in a while to make sure it falls within specifications. Etc....
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Common sense and paying attention. Like driving a car - you need to look both ways before proceeding and distractions cause accidents.
 
burnaby said:
Albertans obviously know how to drive cause if most of the clowns that drive around the lower mainland (like Ditchmond...) reloaded I would stay away from their range. How did these folks get their licenses.

Social engineering is producing a lot of ADHD instant gratification folks that is best served by factory ammo.
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Some people shouldn't be driving or reloading. And there are more of them all the time. Smart devices are not making smarter people.
 
Rod said:
Most potential issues have been covered here so no need to repeat any. . I would like to add one thought that came to mind. . . If there was resizing lube still on the case or the chamber had excess oil on the surface, the case wall may not have gripped the chamber adequately directing the pressure toward the bolt. . Add this to some of the other potentials, who knows??

I don't doubt Glock will treat you right on this no matter what the cause.
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Coefficient of friction has nothing to do with it. Assuming negligible friction between case and chamber wall, the most the bolt thrust can be is pressure times the area of the case head, for which the gun would have to be designed, anyway. Overpressure from wet or lubricated ammunition can happen when there is enough water/oil/grease to fill the gap between chamber and cartridge an/or create a bore obstruction, thus creating a hydraulic lock.

In my experience, residual sizing lube on pistol cases has absolutely no adverse effect other than making the ammunition greasy to handle.
 
Weird for a shop to transfer the frame to them first, alll you wold need to do for any service is a STATT to mail outlet to send it out.


why would they want it transfered if they want to examine it?
 
madcow said:
Weird for a shop to transfer the frame to them first, alll you wold need to do for any service is a STATT to mail outlet to send it out.


why would they want it transfered if they want to examine it?
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There is no really examining it. It is destroyed and has to be replaced.
 
People have posted lots of stuff here about care in reloading. Yes, you need to be careful reloading but that isn't the issue here. You shouldn't reload for a Glock because the guns have oversized chambers and unsupported feed ramps - and if you use brass more than once - and the weakened in the feed ramp area from the first firing happens to line up a second time with the feed ramp (even after proper case resizing) - the case will fail. Don't believe me, believe Glock. They specifically say DO NOT RELOAD FOR THIS GUN. Lee also says that their Bulge Buster kit cannot repair bulged case from firing in a Glock LINK
 
hayday said:
People have posted lots of stuff here about care in reloading. Yes, you need to be careful reloading but that isn't the issue here. You shouldn't reload for a Glock because the guns have oversized chambers and unsupported feed ramps - and if you use brass more than once - and the weakened in the feed ramp area from the first firing happens to line up a second time with the feed ramp (even after proper case resizing) - the case will fail. Don't believe me, believe Glock. They specifically say DO NOT RELOAD FOR THIS GUN. Lee also says that their Bulge Buster kit cannot repair bulged case from firing in a Glock LINK
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Thanks for the reminder, I need to go load a couple hundred rounds for my gen 2 Glock.:dancingbanana:V:I:
 
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