My NEA15 bolt carrier, is it OK?

The last Norc I saw was staked along the axis of the key, not on the sides like a Colt, and they were top-staked, not side staked. No idea if that is still the case or not.
 
This is a first generation Norc BCG

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not bad considering - I'll see if I can take a pic of a second gen bcg
 
North Eastern Arms said:
The bolts are torqued to 56ft/lb at assembly and require an average of 82ft/lb torque to remove with the staking. It is sufficient.

The majority of our carriers are not staked in this manner, but have been inspected/tested.
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Dave, did you mean inch pounds? Using a metric analog, though rather oversized, a grade 12.9 socket cap screw of m10 metric coarse comes to 79NM, something much closer, m6 metric coarse comes out to 16.5NM(12.9). If you're torquing those little bolts to 50+ft.lbs every one of them should be broken off.

EDIT: I just looked up the gas key torque specs, and you did accidentally put ft/lbs instead of in/lbs. Be more careful with that next time please!
 
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holy frack... NEA already stated that it requires MORE torque for those screws to back out than they did going in... so that means they are staked properly folks.

I'm AME by trade and that is all we do, stake to ensure that the bolt/screw will not back off under NORMAL OPERATING CONDITIONS. You do NOT stake so much that the surrounding metal is folded over top the bolt/screw and you deform the bolt/screw so you will never get it back out again without damaging whatever the screw happened to be securing.

A select few here make it sound like they basically want the screws tack welded in there... jeebuss people. :slap:

I apologize in advance if this comes across as harsh, I don't mean to. Just trying to be... uhmmmm realistic... :D
 
FawkQ said:
holy frack... NEA already stated that it requires MORE torque for those screws to back out than they did going in... so that means they are staked properly folks.

I'm AME by trade and that is all we do, stake to ensure that the bolt/screw will not back off under NORMAL OPERATING CONDITIONS. You do NOT stake so much that the surrounding metal is folded over top the bolt/screw and you deform the bolt/screw so you will never get it back out again without damaging whatever the screw happened to be securing.

A select few here make it sound like they basically want the screws tack welded in there... jeebuss people. :slap:

I apologize in advance if this comes across as harsh, I don't mean to. Just trying to be... uhmmmm realistic... :D
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I think someone should put one into a big f**king hydraulic press. Then squeeze both sides so hard that the gas key is essentially pressure welded to the fasteners. Then mill the over height material off!
 
FawkQ said:
A select few here make it sound like they basically want the screws tack welded in there... jeebuss people. :slap:
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LOL. Actually had to do that in an aeration tank at a pulp mill. We had some bolts vibrate free costing us some big money, so next clean-out I hired a welder to tack every effing fastener in there.
 
NavyCuda said:
I think someone should put one into a big f**king hydraulic press. Then squeeze both sides so hard that the gas key is essentially pressure welded to the fasteners. Then mill the over height material off!
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haha can't tell if that is sarcasm or serious or a little of both... but that struck me funny! Laugh2
 
Claven2 said:
What the heck do you think this is??? A ROBARM THREAD!?!?!?
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Lmao! Had to post this! People are greatly exagerating this staking buisness, as a reponsible shooter, you should always do the maintenance of the rifle every time it is being cleaned, and since an AR with DI system runs so dirty, it should be done everytime you are done shooting. Visually inspect your AR for loose parts, and adjust the problem if necessary.

Its as simple as 123...and don't forget the lock-tite :p J/K
 
jeesus, NEA could make monolitic BCGs, put a noveske barrel on it, and SOLID GOLD furniture, all for under 1000$s

and people would still act like using one will make your #### fall off...
 
easysauce said:
jeesus, NEA could make monolitic BCGs, put a noveske barrel on it, and SOLID GOLD furniture, all for under 1000$s

and people would still act like using one will make your #### fall off...
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Seriously? Just because they're Canadian, doesn't mean we need to jump all over their dicks. Is it too much to ask for a working AR with parts in it that were advertised? That's all that's expected. Oh, maybe less than a 4 month wait after I put $1000 down on a pre-order that I was supposed to have in 3 weeks?

I know I keep mentioning Norcs but the comparison is unavoidable. Have you seen anywhere near the amount of complaints about Norcs? And there must be thousands of Norcs out there. I don't think I recall this many issues with the Core-15s either.
 
kouik said:
Lmao! Had to post this! People are greatly exagerating this staking buisness, as a reponsible shooter, you should always do the maintenance of the rifle every time it is being cleaned, and since an AR with DI system runs so dirty, it should be done everytime you are done shooting. Visually inspect your AR for loose parts, and adjust the problem if necessary.

Its as simple as 123...and don't forget the lock-tite :p J/K
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Do you honestly inspect your AR for loose parts every time you shoot it?? Simple as 123 means I shoot my gun and throw some CLP on it once in awhile. Checking the torque on my gas key bolts every time I shoot it? :confused: I don't even remember the last time I went over my gun for loose parts.
 
kouik said:
Lmao! Had to post this! People are greatly exagerating this staking buisness, as a reponsible shooter, you should always do the maintenance of the rifle every time it is being cleaned, and since an AR with DI system runs so dirty, it should be done everytime you are done shooting. Visually inspect your AR for loose parts, and adjust the problem if necessary.
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There is absolutely no need to clean your AR everytime you shoot, especially recreationally in Canada with 5 or 10 round mags. Even overseas I only clean every thousand rounds or so unless it gets really dusty. At home I just add lube.
 
wherermykeys said:
Seriously? Just because they're Canadian, doesn't mean we need to jump all over their dicks. Is it too much to ask for a working AR with parts in it that were advertised? That's all that's expected. Oh, maybe less than a 4 month wait after I put $1000 down on a pre-order that I was supposed to have in 3 weeks?

I know I keep mentioning Norcs but the comparison is unavoidable. Have you seen anywhere near the amount of complaints about Norcs? And there must be thousands of Norcs out there. I don't think I recall this many issues with the Core-15s either.
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FWIW I was never billed till a few days ago when my transfer started, so thats not NEA, thats your retailer, and I knew it would be a few months. and actually I heard about lots of issues with first gen Norcs, awful finish, fit, stuff came loose, mine actually came with a very loose castle nut, and the irons didnt work, but it was a later model when the finish was improved. good gun for 700$ despite minor flaws...

a low profile gas block on brownells is 69.99, and a free float quad rail is 226.99

so paying that extra 300 for a 7.5 nea doesnt sound too far off to me,


not to mention a better barrel, over sized trigger guard, and a fire selector switch that doesnt dig into my hand. oh and nea offers a 7.5 barrel for that price, cant even get a norq that short,


if my nea sucks believe me youll know, but I wont bash something before I shoot it because a few people cant let it go that some BCG's made it out unstaked... everyone got replacements,

and try telling norinco to replace defective irons.
 
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