My pair of tube feed rimfire... Pic.
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25 rounds of long rifle beats 18, and with a detachable magazine, reloading is much quicker through the use of a second magazine.
The "second magazine" is only quicker if you have someone else loading it
...unless you can fire from one while loading the second yourself. A neat trick.
not yet...it's on "the list" though!
It's a semi auto, that is more accurate than the vast majority of bolt action rifles.
It's already loaded. If 50 shots isn't good enough you can have a third magazine loaded and ready to go. If you really don't want to waste any time loading, you can get 50 round detachable mags. That being said,I find two 10 round detachable magazines to be more than adequate. I can have one loaded mag in the rifle ready to fire, as I load the spare mag.
I'd be willing to have a spray and play race
500rds minimum. You can have one 25rd mag pre-loaded (mercy). Tube vs. magazine fingers only (no speed loaders for box or, arrow shafts for tubes). semi vs. semi or bolty vs. bolty...
For spray and play fun, does anyone think they can load 19x25rd box magazines faster than the equivalent through a tube?(14 rds in a Nylon 66's tube)
Should be fun to try!
500rds minimum. You can have one 25rd mag pre-loaded (mercy). Tube vs. magazine fingers only (no speed loaders for box or, arrow shafts for tubes). semi vs. semi or bolty vs. bolty...
For spray and play fun, does anyone think they can load 19x25rd box magazines faster than the equivalent through a tube?(14 rds in a Nylon 66's tube)
Should be fun to try!
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I'll put my Henry up against any mag fed .22 for a 500 round race.
With confidence too!
Sorry for the "hijack/tangential shift" on this thread...OP's got some nice 'uns there!
The adantage of detachable mags is that you can have multiple magazines that can be fired one after the other and reloaded later. Why do you suppose that the military uses detachable mags ,rather than tubular mags.
I would gladly take you up on such a race, with me using as many mags as I choose, and the race would be the first person to hit a 1" metal target at 50 yards five hundred times. Or you can make it 500 shots in total and add 3 seconds per missed shot.
In general they aren't, but I don't own an average semi auto 22lr. Mine has shot several sub 1/2" ten shot groups at 50 yards in the two times that I have fired it. My bolt action Anschutz match rifles will do better, but many bolt actions won't do as good. I have details of the rifle, and pictures of those groups posted on the thread below.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=722187&page=2
That being said,I still prefer to hunt with a detachable magazine bolt action rifle, the semi auto is mostly for some friendly competition with friends who also shoot semi auto rimfires.
I think this has as much to do with spitzer ammo touching the primer of the round adjacent in a tube...not the speed at which they can be reloaded. There are "historic" examples (my Ljungman) where the box magazine is detachable, but only one was issued per rifle. They are loaded (very quickly) with the use of a stripper.
I'm pretty certain shotties employed are tube fed though.
I don't think it would qualify as a "sub" gun if it had a 3 foot tube mag sticking out the front.
I acquiesce the point though. Humbly so. If I was allowed an SMG, I would far rather have a handful of magazines than wander 'round with a mag-tube sticking out 3x further than the barrel...
I acquiesce the point though. Humbly so. If I was allowed an SMG, I would far rather have a handful of magazines than wander 'round with a mag-tube sticking out 3x further than the barrel...
Even the first truly rapid fire gun, the gatling gun used detachable mags. The 45-70 was also chambered in tubular magazine rifles, so it wasn't because of the primer/bullet issues.
They offer high capacity, and multiple loaded magazines offer the quickest reloads.
They offer high capacity, and multiple loaded magazines offer the quickest reloads.
lol
Anyone else see the flaw in those 2 examples?
-The equivalent to the gatling on today's field is belt fed (evolved away from SLOW to load mags entirely)
-45/70 FMJ spitzer (as contempry mil-fare eat)
For pointy ammo, I think hornady makes something "pointy" for tube feds, otherwise they'll be obtuse nosed for a fine reason.
Anyone else see the flaw in those 2 examples?
-The equivalent to the gatling on today's field is belt fed (evolved away from SLOW to load mags entirely)
-45/70 FMJ spitzer (as contempry mil-fare eat)
For pointy ammo, I think hornady makes something "pointy" for tube feds, otherwise they'll be obtuse nosed for a fine reason.
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I like to use my tube feeder Remington 552 in the cold weather. In the winter I always get splits on the tip of my thumbs and loading a regular mag for my Rem 597 or CZ455 is too painful. Thats when the easy loading tube mag is nice.
I recently helped a (presumed new) rimfire enthusiast at a range to zero-in his semi-automatic .22
- when I saw it was a Remington Speedmaster 552 I nearly hugged him.......within no time he was grouping-well at 50 yards....And I finally got myself a scoped .22 bolt-action (a Remington 512)....
....I'm no great-shakes as a shooter......but I was putting at least some bullet-holes on top of bullet-holes there....
