My steyr M95s

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here is a pic of my M95 Steyr rifles. they are my favorite bolt action military gun. when it comes to the short rifles no 2 are the same. I find them very interesting.
I put a second pic of the stock of one of the guns that was refurbished in Bulgaria. it looks like it some how got lucky and was remated with its original stock. they crossed off the old number and restamped it with the same number? its all matching.
I am hoping more people get into these fantastic and well built rifles.



 
Most collectors don't realize how much action these rifles have seen. They were used above the tree line on high mountain European Alps glaciers, in the forests and in the trenches. Very reliable and accurate rifles that many say Ross copied to build his rifles.

Whatever, for many years the only ammo available for them was a bit of surplus that trickled in on occasion. If you were lucky, it was on chargers. If not, your rifle became a rather awkward to load single shot. Not only that, the ammo was usually Berdan primed, with an unusual diameter .329 bullet. When they first came out, you could pick up a 3 pack for $75. One long rifle, one cut down to carbine length rifle with the long rifle rear tangent sight and one made specifically as a carbine, with the short rear carbine sight. Both of those are shown in the OPs pic.

The carbine I kept for myself, has the long rear sight and is of course a refurb. The bore is pristine and with issue ammo, shoots better than my old eyes will allow. I was lucky enough to pick up a few thousand rounds when it was available 30+years ago. It was only available for a very short time. Most of it went into the US at about a third the price it was offered for up here. I actually picked up 5000 rounds of it from Ed Karrer's Gunatorium for less than what a thousand rounds would cost here. I was down there anyway so there weren't any shipping costs.

Funny thing is, they got the ammo first and the rifles about a year later. That's why it was so cheap. They were selling it at cost.

These are very well made and safe rifles. A friend of mine and I, converted 4 of them to 45/70s. We found a cheap reamer, that had seen better days and proceeded to fit some cheap Numrich barrels. They shot quite well. The biggest problem was that darned mag well. We cut the clips in half and silver soldered them back together so the rims of the 45/70 cases would fit. The bolt faces were easily opened up and the extractor only needed a bit of judicious grinding. The original stocks, had lots of character and after discarding the top wood, we just opened up the barrel channels and rounded off the fore end. They were lovely, well balanced rifles that would take high pressure loads, up to 45,000cup without a hiccup.

Many of these old girls were converted to 7.92x57 as well, as secondary issue, rear echelon weapons. I have one done in Hungary, at least that is what the receiver says. The barrel and sights are identical to those on a K98 but the mag has been fitted with spring metal lips to hold rimless cartridges and be filled with chargers. Very similar to those done by Turkey on the Commission rifles. These rifles went all over southern Europe as war reparations after WWI. They will have the marks from many nations.

Can't say enough good things about these rifles. Thanks for showing yours OP and for those not interested in playing with the original cartridge there were many imported into Canada in 8x57. Sadly most of them were cut back into sporters and D&Ted for scope mounts.
 
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They DESERVE much better than they usually GET.

Good design, well-made, very best materials including special steels developed just for them.

Ammo is almost impossible to find, although Partizan does make the 8x56R now and it is available here in a few places.

I handload for mine, using brass from Trade-Ex and Lee dies for the 8x56R. For my 8x50, I trim back 7.62x54R brass, open it out and push the shoulder back very slightly with a Lebel die.

They are truly FINE rifles, especially if you get one with a good bore.

These are very REAL warhorses. Check the statistics: the Imperial and Royal (KuK) Austro-Hungarian Army took more than EIGHTY percent casualties in the Great War when you add up Killed, Wounded and Missing.

These rifles are the reminders of THAT.
 
here is a pic of my M95 Steyr rifles. they are my favorite bolt action military gun. when it comes to the short rifles no 2 are the same. I find them very interesting.
You have rifle, you have ex-carbine, you short rifles made of long rifle, you need to get ex-stutzen :)
 
With full-house loads I find the 8x56R to be more than a bit of a bruiser.

If you like the rifle and don't want the recoil, pick up a Lee .330" mould and some wheelweights and try 13 grains of Red Dot.

It is a short-range load and quite comfortable, good out to 200+, VERY cheap to load.

What's not to like?
 
I handload for mine, using brass from Trade-Ex and Lee dies for the 8x56R. For my 8x50, I trim back 7.62x54R brass, open it out and push the shoulder back very slightly with a Lebel die.


- Could you replay that in slow mo? I'd like to know how to make some 8x50R as I have an "original" caliber and I also have the Lebel dies from Lee.
 
I handload for mine, using brass from Trade-Ex and Lee dies for the 8x56R. For my 8x50, I trim back 7.62x54R brass, open it out and push the shoulder back very slightly with a Lebel die.


- Could you replay that in slow mo? I'd like to know how to make some 8x50R as I have an "original" caliber and I also have the Lebel dies from Lee.

Stuff a round of 54R in your 8X50R and fire it, it fireforms very nicely (if its brass)
 
I have several in 8x56R, two or three in 8x57. The 8x57 carbines are sporters. Very nicely done. The original carbines do kick. We ground a wee bit off the tip of a military cartridge and shot a full 5 gallon plastic pail of water. The lid had never been off, so it was well attached. We shot it at about 25 feet. The pail literally exploded and the lid went probably 15 feet in the air. :ar15:

As stated above, brass is now available, and Lee makes a mold, so no excuse for not shooting these old warhorses. :)
 
Stop tempting me you guys!! You're all evil, evil men!!! I have to complete my Canadian WWI collection! I have no justification to collect such a smooth, accurate rifle with deep history from a part of the world that hasn't existed for nearly a century. No justification at all. Oy. f:P:
 
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I have yet to shoot this one but hopefully if the all the stars a line and the cold goes away I will get out and shoot it.
 
I have several in 8x56R, two or three in 8x57. The 8x57 carbines are sporters. Very nicely done. The original carbines do kick. We ground a wee bit off the tip of a military cartridge and shot a full 5 gallon plastic pail of water. The lid had never been off, so it was well attached. We shot it at about 25 feet. The pail literally exploded and the lid went probably 15 feet in the air. :ar15:

As stated above, brass is now available, and Lee makes a mold, so no excuse for not shooting these old warhorses. :)

Please don't do that again if you value your skin. Taking off the nose of hardpoint military ammo can, and has led to the core of the bullet heading downrange, leaving the jacket behind in the bore. The following shot can cause severe overpressure to the action & or barrel and quite probably kill you or a bystander.

This warning is for bullets that have no jacket completely covering the base of the bullet. Pull a bullet from the case and check before makin' redneck hollow points.
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you can get the Steyr so much cheaper then any Canadian gun it shouldn't affect your collection.
as for the ammo that's out there right now. you will probably come into contact with two types. the prvi stuff and the german WW2 stuff. both kick hard, your talking a bullet over 200g. its not the kind of gun you will shoot 1000 rounds out of. just take it out to have fun once in awhile. or don't shoot it just keep it in your collection. you can get one cheap enough that you wont regret it.
P&S militaria has two of the shot rifles in stock for $235. BUT! you get a bayonet worth at least $75 and the mannlichar clip you need for the ammo.


Stop tempting me you guys!! You're all evil, evil men!!! I have to complete my Canadian WWI collection! I have no justification to collect such a smooth, accurate rifle with deep history from a part of the world that hasn't existed for nearly a century. No justification at all. Oy. f:P:
 
Is 8x56R a shoulder-bruiser? I'm interested in these as being similar to Rosses. But if the cartridge isn't comfortable to shoot, I can't see myself bothering. I steer clear of 30-06s and 8mms for the same reason. Why punish yourself?


Actually it's more like the Ross being extremely similar to the M95
 
Please don't do that again if you value your skin. Taking off the nose of hardpoint military ammo can, and has led to the core of the bullet heading downrange, leaving the jacket behind in the bore. The following shot can cause severe overpressure to the action & or barrel and quite probably kill you or a bystander.

This warning is for bullets that have no jacket completely covering the base of the bullet. Pull a bullet from the case and check before makin' redneck hollow points.
f:P:f:P:f:P:

He fired it, say the result's and enjoyed it. No harm done.
Now if he had "missed" the target then a look down the bore would have been in order.
 
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