History shows that if one group is treated differently that group will inevitably become and remain second class citizens.
Native led "ban" on moose hunting in BC expanded...
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History shows that if one group is treated differently that group will inevitably become and remain second class citizens.
exactly, but you are being called a racist and a hater even if you dare to even open a discussion about it - even in this forum...
http://bcwf.net/index.php/new-items-sp-25573/news-updates
B.C. Wildlife Federation anticipates road blockades by the First Nations (Tahltan Central Government) to stop Resident Moose hunting. That dosen't sound good.
That's all you need is armed First Nations and Resident Hunters (who have finally managed, after applying for years to get a successful moose draw) facing off at a road block.
Will the RCMP be out patrolling these roads during hunting season?
B.C. Wildlife Federation anticipates road blockades by the First Nations (Tahltan Central Government) to stop Resident Moose hunting. That dosen't sound good.
That's all you need is armed First Nations and Resident Hunters (who have finally managed, after applying for years to get a successful moose draw) facing off at a road block.
Will the RCMP be out patrolling these roads during hunting season?
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AWWWWW, you poor SOB's in BC are getting the Ontario treatment! Our moose numbers are way down, in great part due to over-harvesting by our "stewards of the land". Oddly enough, if you're skunked when moose hunting, hang around because as a buddy found out, some aboriginal types dropped by their hunt camp and offered to sell them moose that they had tags for. Seems that several pick up trucks full of local band members had gone through the area just before moose season, and killed everything they saw! Since Oka, the government has lost the will to practice FAIR hunting protocols and hold bands to the terms they agreed to in earlier treaties. Just another example of ball-less liberals eunuchs who don't understand hard reality, who cave in to every vocal group of self-styled "victims", and who don't have the sack to enforce the law. I could cry at what my Canada is turning into.
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There was already guys running through native blockades last year after the police refused to attend the illegal roadblock. This year will be worse. Luckily, my only interaction with natives while moose hunting was with Tsay Keh Dene band. They claim jurisdiction over hunting from Williston Lake to Thutade Lake. As if their ancestors traveled from the north end of Williston over the mountain ranges to hunt moose at Thutade and drag the meat back. Riiight.
TKD hasn't been very militant but they come to talk to you in camp wearing a TKD Wildlife hat and ask if you signed in with the band. We always just refused to talk to them or answer any questions and they awkwardly leave. "I am not obligated to answer any of your questions because you are not an officer of the law." Period, full stop.
I can see them starting roadblocks soon since there is only one road in and out to 7-39/6-18. Gotta start flying in like the outfitter.
TKD hasn't been very militant but they come to talk to you in camp wearing a TKD Wildlife hat and ask if you signed in with the band. We always just refused to talk to them or answer any questions and they awkwardly leave. "I am not obligated to answer any of your questions because you are not an officer of the law." Period, full stop.
I can see them starting roadblocks soon since there is only one road in and out to 7-39/6-18. Gotta start flying in like the outfitter.
I would phrase it, "the Liberals and NDP have MADE it so"! It is their lack of Canadian values, and the understanding of the grass roots, of this country that has polarized us. More and more, we're being forced to choose being labelled right wing, left wing, racist, islamophobic, homophobic, fascist, nazi, progressive, etc. etc. etc. If we ever get a GOOD federal government again, I'd like to see a leader who builds bridges, mends fences, and attempts to unify us again as Canadians!
LOL, christ this happened to our hunt camp in the MacKenzie area back in 2002. The FN from Fort Ware went and slaughtered every f**king animal in the area and then had the gall to come into camp and try to sell moose and bear. When the CFO stopped in, we reported it, he pretended to take the report, then left. He did though warn us about two aggressive griz that had come into the area because of all the carcasses left lying around...
I believe its just their opinion. As it was explained to me once by a CFO (and if I remember correctly), the FN cannot use traditional hunting as a reason if that wasn't the practice before 1874. Also moose were introduced to the Caribou by the provincial government between 1910 and 1915.
So, no, this isn't legally binding but will lead to some nasty outcomes IMO.
good post and I get yours, and many canadians frustrations on these topics.
I also see and hear the frustrations from the other side of the fence. Most aboriginals I know are ethical hunters and just decent people. I get that me and those I know may not be representative of what goes on across the land. S.35 and the Powley Act , guarantee Metis rights in canada but yet the government does not treat all metis like aboriginals according to s.35 and other treaty rights. So not every aboriginal canadian is part of the problem some members here make "all" aboriginals out to be the cause of.
Expressing frustration over how this country decided to manage the affairs between aboriginals and the rest of canadians is not "our" fault. It is the fault of government and the systems they have laid out for us all to abide by.
People here speak with zero knowledge of the choices that an aboriginal person is born into and the system the government mandates them to be raised in. I took the time to educate myself in these histories and have my own opinion on how we all got to where we are today.
BC was set aside very early in the treaty process that went on across the rest of the country because of it's unique landscape and the bounty it's resources could provide. This is fact and due to refusing to work out mutually beneficial treaty with the various bands in BC back then.... instead favoring corporate ownership of the resources..... we are in this conundrum here in BC.
Blame the government for this, not the aboriginal.
indigenous people in BC have watched industry and corporate greed destroy the landscape in BC for maximum profit. Our once great rivers are losing thier world famous steelhead and salmon runs. You probably couldn't even find a creek with a Westlope cuttthroat trout in the lowermainland anymore.... and these are but small examples of how the government has allowed todays society to get fat and rich and raise thier families while they take from the land and do little to make it whole afterwards.
but ya, blame the native hunter..... it's all his fault this is where the road has taken us.
The enjoyment of the province's fish and wildlife are for ALL residents - native and non native alike.
I would be pretty pissed if I finally got my moose draw after 5 or 6 years of applying, taking time off from work, scraping together some cash and then was barred from entering the WMU to hunt even though I have a legal right to be there.
I would be pretty pissed if I finally got my moose draw after 5 or 6 years of applying, taking time off from work, scraping together some cash and then was barred from entering the WMU to hunt even though I have a legal right to be there.
Did 1899’s post not blame the government? It is literally a list of examples outlining the governments actions...
did you read the first sentence of my post? before the paragraph that followed?
do I gotta spell it out so crystal clear that the first sentence was a reply to what i quoted and the rest was directed at everyone else and the topic at hand?
LOL , maybe smoke another one?
I doubt many young natives hunt anymore.... they seem more interested in traditional(teenager) activities such as video games and junk food.
Maybe we should just let the natives manage Canadian resources..... as Thomas points out they couldn't possibly due a much worse job then the government.
While we are at it they can run and finance native affairs with their profits from selling resources..... and if it's not enough they could cut native funding by simply going back to a traditional life style of living of the land.
Maybe we should just let the natives manage Canadian resources..... as Thomas points out they couldn't possibly due a much worse job then the government.
While we are at it they can run and finance native affairs with their profits from selling resources..... and if it's not enough they could cut native funding by simply going back to a traditional life style of living of the land.
-My apologies and thanks for the clarification. The way I read it was initially confusing to me.
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