Natural Resource Law Enforcement (Game Officers)

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So im another year closer to graduating out of school and my degree should qualify me for the natural resources law enforcement program at fleming college.

Only problem is that according to my dad, who has been hunting since he was a teen, mentioned that he has seen less and less officers over the years to the point in which he doesn't believe any can be even found in our area (except the ones that we see driving around highway 7)

I don't want to spend 5 grand on a useless program. I don't know anyone who has done this sort of job (or any related to it).

Any suggestions? Go for it? Stay away?

I love hunting, fishing and everything to do with the outdoors and I would love for it to be a part of my career if I can swing it.
 
You might have to move away from southern Ontario to get a job. Maybe even another province or state perhaps. Somebody, somewhere, is hiring a CO. They don't work forever...

That program will also help if you apply for a Police or Corrections job, if a CO job can't be found.
 
That program is useless. The MNR provides the training required to be a CO. But be ready to volunteer as a DCO first. There are 11 CO spots open in Ontario. 4 down in Aylmer. You can pay 5k and do the MNR training plus the required gear. NYSDEC loves fleming grads who do the natural resources law. And once with NYSDEC you can work with any DEC.
 
LongPointDiver said:
That program is useless. The MNR provides the training required to be a CO. But be ready to volunteer as a DCO first. There are 11 CO spots open in Ontario. 4 down in Aylmer. You can pay 5k and do the MNR training plus the required gear. NYSDEC loves fleming grads who do the natural resources law. And once with NYSDEC you can work with any DEC.
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Sorry I just kinda started doing my homework on this yesterday so I'm not really familiar with much surrounding it so far.

Are you saying that you can apply to the MNR for this program without doing a program like the one done at fleming?
 
Yes. You do not need the program at Fleming. Contact the MNR Peterborough office. Ask about about the DCO and CO training. They will forward you to the guy that does the training. He will explain it all and be able to answer all your questions. You can talk to Mike Fraser at Fleming, he will give you a no bs answer about the program.
 
mentioned that he has seen less and less officers over the years to the point in which he doesn't believe any can be even found in our area
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They are there and your Dad has likely had a chat with one or two over the years or at least driven by them. A CO in uniform in a marked truck serves one purpose a CO in a ratty pickup with led zepplin T-shirt serves another.
 
david doyle said:
They are there and your Dad has likely had a chat with one or two over the years or at least driven by them. A CO in uniform in a marked truck serves one purpose a CO in a ratty pickup with led zepplin T-shirt serves another.
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Only judging by your avator you likely live out west. In Ontario the CO's had problems getting money to even put gas in their trucks and would have to decide whether to patrol. Our system needs some work.
 
KRASHED said:
Sorry I just kinda started doing my homework on this yesterday so I'm not really familiar with much surrounding it so far.

Are you saying that you can apply to the MNR for this program without doing a program like the one done at fleming?
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Seeing how you're already working for the MNR this summer, maybe you should poke around and ask questions there...;)
 
I suggest you take a year off and travel around Europe. At sixteen, you're into fishing, hunting and the outdoors - but tastes change as you get older. Do you want to be checking fishing licenses when your forty five?
Additionally, Ontario community colleges are pumping out way too many people in certain programmes - RMT, esthetician, golf course management, etc. People spend good time and money to get apiece of paper, and their reward is a part time job at close to minimum wage!
 
At sixteen, you're into fishing, hunting and the outdoors - but tastes change as you get older. Do you want to be checking fishing licenses when your forty five?
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He might not want to be checking fishing liscences but if he starts now puts in his time, continues his education over the years and makes good contacts when he is 45 he'll be able to take his career in any direction he so chooses.

I'd say aim begin with either a Bachelor of Science or a Criminology degree.

For that matter who cares most days I'd trade my job for hanging out lake side chatting with fishermen. Might suck wearing armour all day and lugging that heavy belt but I bet they have a dental plan and pension..... (for now)
 
With a handle like yours, I'd avoid anything related to areal surveillance and enforcement.:D Good luck with your career, it has the potential to be a great one. Met a couple COs around Chitek that were really good guys...even the guy that rousted me for me loaded shootgun in a rec. site ;)
 
Bad advice.

cosmic said:
I suggest you take a year off and travel around Europe. At sixteen, you're into fishing, hunting and the outdoors - but tastes change as you get older. Do you want to be checking fishing licenses when your forty five?
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He could do a lot worse than get a job he likes, a secure job in the civil service, a job with a defined benefits pension plan, a job with a retirement date that will come sooner than you think.

At age 45 he might be checking fishing licenses, but he'll be looking forward to his imminent retirement. Once retired, he can go to Europe, or wherever else he wants, and do whatever he likes, whenever he likes, with a guaranteed pension.
 
i lil off topic but same situation, growing up loved, loved loved loved motorcycles dirtbikes all motorized 2wheels machines, i have now been wokring in a bike shop for 6 years and over the last three i find myself "wanting" to ride less and less, almost getting burned out, when i get home i didnt even want to look at my bikes....... so to wrap things up sometimes even if you love the outdoors and want to pursue a careers in that "field" it might be better to keep it as your hobbie so you can work at a different job that you like and then when it comes time for hunting and fishing and what not it will be more rewarding..... just my 2 cents (and im a horrible writer so hopefully this makes sense)
 
YGF said:
i lil off topic but same situation, growing up loved, loved loved loved motorcycles dirtbikes all motorized 2wheels machines, i have now been wokring in a bike shop for 6 years and over the last three i find myself "wanting" to ride less and less, almost getting burned out, when i get home i didnt even want to look at my bikes....... so to wrap things up sometimes even if you love the outdoors and want to pursue a careers in that "field" it might be better to keep it as your hobbie so you can work at a different job that you like and then when it comes time for hunting and fishing and what not it will be more rewarding..... just my 2 cents (and im a horrible writer so hopefully this makes sense)
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I see what you are saying 100%. I have a lot of hobbies and the outdoors is the only one I could see myself having a job in. Hell even if it lasted for only 5-10 years at least it would potentially set me up for another job related to it or what I went to school for.

Thanks for the help guys. Lots of phone calls to make now :)
 
YGF- good point, but you never know how it will turn out until the end. I made my hobby my job and now get paid to spend all day outside working so that I can take weekends off and spend all day outside playing! :D
I guess the point we are both making to the OP is: you have to love your job. ;)
 
you have to love your job
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or have court ordered payments, a huge morgtage, a gambling addiction, or a strong consumer motive LOL

KRASH all the best to you no matter what you decide to pursue you'll do great and remember now adays we all have/had multiple jobs, trades, proffesion, bussinesses etc so even if you make a 'mistake' big deal.

Only thing that can make it extra difficult is forgetting your condoms or getting hitched with out engaging your brain first!
 
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