Naysayers defeated. .375 Ruger legitimized

One advantage of a standard length action over a true magnum length action is cost. I don't think that there is much difference in handling or in the speed of cycling the action, but the .375 Ruger puts a very powerful rifle within reach of many who would otherwise be excluded. The fact of the matter is that a 300 gr bullet at 2500 gets the job done, and it matter not at all what the head stamp on the cartridge says.
 
Boomer I totally agree but I love the capabilities of being able to push the 300gr bullet a lot faster from my RUM if I choose to load that way.

The 375H&H is available in rifles that are not expensive these 2 for example are priced around the Ruger pricing a Rem 700 XCR or Rem 798...

I am not saying the 375 Ruger doesn't have its place I'm saying I do not see any advantage going to it over an H&H.

Which puts it into the prince/joker catagory for me... :p
 
Curt said:
I think a good point of the .375 Ruger fitting into STANDARD length actions is that more manufacturers without capabilities to make a magnum length actions, can chamber this class of cartridge. More selection of rifles is good in my mind. Cost of manufacturing should be lower as well.
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this is largely an internet myth, a ruger Mk2 can accommodate a 375 H&H with $8 in parts and a rat-tail file

http://www.riflemagazine.com/magazine/article.cfm?magid=84&tocid=1186

which proves that the introduction of the 375 Ruger as a cartridge, is a marketing ploy aimed at easily influenced individuals who will open their wallets and worship false idols :nest:

the Alaskan and Africans are, of course excellent packages as a whole.
 
rgv said:
this is largely an internet myth, a ruger Mk2 can accommodate a 375 H&H with $8 in parts and a rat-tail file

http://www.riflemagazine.com/magazine/article.cfm?magid=84&tocid=1186
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After I read that article I almost went that route- I had a Ruger donor with the proper bolt face, and I even sent the article to Guntech to ask him if he could rebarrel and make the modifications, and he said it didn't appear to be a problem.

Then the 375 Ruger was announced and I thought it was a better option, since it *was* a bit shorter and woudl easily fit in the action for possibly easier loading/unloading. And since there is nothing that the H&H can do that the 375 Ruger cannot, and it came in exactly the style of rifle I was after, it was a no brainer to acquire the New King! :dancingbanana:
 
Camp Cook said:
Your right not many there are to many people that recognize that a little more case capacity = velocity = a good thing.
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The point is that we don't make tapered cartridges any more since the straighter ones extract fine these days.;)

What I'm missing is what is with this need for a shorter cartridge/bolt/action am I one of the few here that doesn't have an issue with bolt length or the need for a slightly lighter rifle if you can't handle an extra 8 oz in action weight exercise a bit more you probably need it.
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Need? Or is it that we prefer one over the other?:p

There *is* a difference in manipulating a longer action. I can definitely tell the difference between working the longer magnum actions vs a standard action and vs short action. Whether this translates into faster or easier would be hard to measure given the way different people come in different shapes and sizes, but most people certainly have preferences.;)
 
Gatehouse said:
1) The point is that we don't make tapered cartridges any more since the straighter ones extract fine these days.;)

Need? Or is it that we prefer one over the other?:p

There *is* a difference in manipulating a longer action. 2) I can definitely tell the difference between working the longer magnum actions vs a standard action and vs short action. Whether this translates into faster or easier 3) would be hard to measure given the way different people come in different shapes and sizes, but most people certainly have preferences.;)
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1) It isn't extracting that is the issue it is the feeding of the round where I feel the difference only word I can use to discribe it is clunky.

2) I don't feel any significant difference in the different action lengths but then again I shoot all of the different actions so often that one is like the other too me.

3) Just tells me that they don't shoot enough...
 
Camp Cook said:
1) It isn't extracting that is the issue it is the feeding of the round where I feel the difference only word I can use to discribe it is clunky.
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Feed and/or extract...Sorry.:p

In the past, cases were often designed with taper to allow easy (or even positive) extraction, particularly in battle situations.

2) I don't feel any significant difference in the different action lengths but then again I shoot all of the different actions so often that one is like the other too me.

3) Just tells me that they don't shoot enough...
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To me, it tells me that some people don't really pay attention to what they are doing and/or can't tell the difference because they don't really know any better.:p

I've got a small range in my back yard and shoot a fair bit, so I guess we are all different.

I can tell the difference between operating a 22LR bolt action, a 223, a 30-06 and a magnum length action. I can tell the difference between a pump, lever or break open, too.:p
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Here is my take on the 375 Ruger.

Simple fact of the matter is the 375 Ruger is a good idea! Marketing sure it is? Ruger needs to make money same as everyone! Does it replace the 375H&H? Of course not! But for someone like myself that wanted a CRF rifle in 375 it was the perfect choice...

I tried out a 798 and it was 1200 bucks and felt like junk! I didn't want an M700 in 375... I tried a buddy's CZ in 375 and the thing was huge!!! I could not afford many of the other options either.

So I bought a 375 Ruger Alaskan. It fit my budget and gave me a nice compact bear rifle that is ballistically the same as a 375H&H...

Whats not to like?
 
mcrae555 said:
Here is my take on the 375 Ruger.

Simple fact of the matter is the 375 Ruger is a good idea! Marketing sure it is? Ruger needs to make money same as everyone! Does it replace the 375H&H? Of course not! But for someone like myself that wanted a CRF rifle in 375 it was the perfect choice...

I tried out a 798 and it was 1200 bucks and felt like junk! I didn't want an M700 in 375... I tried a buddy's CZ in 375 and the thing was huge!!! I could not afford many of the other options either.

So I bought a 375 Ruger Alaskan. It fit my budget and gave me a nice compact bear rifle that is ballistically the same as a 375H&H...

Whats not to like?
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It's a win/win!

You get the rifle you want, Ruger gets your money and it is all good!:dancingbanana:

Marketing has never made me buy anything I didn't want already...;)
 
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MTM said:
I guess its true, if you say it enough it becomes true.:( I am just happy he didn't decide the 300 WSM was the new 300 king.:D
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While sales for the 300WSM continue to be strong, so do sales of the 300WM, and I expect that to continue, especialy in BC.

However, the true King of the .30 calibers is still the 30-06, and I don't see that changing anytime soon. As much as I find the 30-06 boring, it is still a great cartridge for 90% of hunting applications.;)
 
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