NAZI Mauser 98K? Styer Mfg.(Lots of Pics added)

Some have hoods and some don't. Any you can't just buy a hood and throw it on one without one, as the front sight for a no-hood rifle is not grooved to accept a hood. I found this out the hard way. I have no idea why some K98's had hoods from the factory and some didn't, but you do see them in both configurations in historical photos.

Maybe a real K98 expert can comment on this?
 
If you dont mind a little input from way south, from the few photos it looks like you were extremely lucky. The X you see on the receiver indicates it was a russian capture rifle, the X is actually crossed mosins and the bolt SHOULD have been seperated from the receiver and thrown in a pile during refurbish which it looks like a lazy comrade handled yours. The x is there but from your photos it looks like the bolt matches the receiver. We can only hope so does your mag floorplate, barrel and other. The bolt receiver and other parts later would have been electro penciled to match which yours does not appear to have had happen.

If the stock has numbers stamped in it those were put there by the capturing russians and are not normally german. The german markings were inside the barrel groove. Also if you turn it over and look at the pistol grip behind the trigger guard, see if there happens to be a roundish stamp, it may or may not be clear from the handling over the years but take a magnifier to it and see if it is a skull, this is where the ss ones were marked.

Most of them did not have hoods in the mid to later years, Im not sure why and most of the russian captures lost one of the trigger guard screws and the cleaning rod.

It would do you well to check to see if this is or isn't a mitchells mauser which are definitly refurbished but if not you got real lucky and the value is high.

You can get some, a lot more, intelligent information from a website called CSP, they have a mauser forum. You can find the link on my website in the shooting forum section.

http://www.spd2087.com


Take care!
Rick
 
I bought a nice book about Mauser 98k that helped me with marking, I have one portuguese in mint condition buit at obendorf in 41

The is Mauser millitary riffle of the world, by Robert W. Ball, and just checkesd a bit nad find those X in the book it say russian marking like Lobo2087 said.
 
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As Lobo stated, the "X" would indicate Russian re-work which would be total mis-match then electro-penceled. Your bolt and bands match original serial number more like Czech or East german re-work which tended to match some parts or re-stamp. The front hood is Czech for sure. The stock doesnt have take-down disk so likely late war or replacement. Either way not original to a 41 BNZ. Best guess...a pretty K98 Mauser that's probably been "cleaned up" recently from the looks of it. Should be a good "shooter" for you.

Geoff
 
TO bring together most of what has been said here...

You've got an East German Volkspolezie K98k, a nazi manufacture rifle overhauled in East-Germany post-war for the Volkspolezie (peoples police), a sort of East German paramilitary police.

The crossed mosins "X" does indicate russian capture originally. Post war this rifle passed through russian hands and eventually into East Germany.

At that point the rifle was completely overhauled. You'll notice the NAZI eagle and swastika on the receiver are defaced, the numbers on the rifle would have been scrubbed and re-stamped to match the receiver if they didn't match in the first place (you'll notice that your bolt at least has been ground and re-stamped to match, and the floorplate has been restruck to match.)

The barrel also would have been replaceds, and I bet under the stock line you'll see a U over a crown, indicating post war, East-German manufacture. The "K13" and "K9" on the wrist of your stock indicate that it is post war, East-German as well.
The Czech-style front sight guard was also adopted by the East Germans.

Does your rifle have the last two digits of the serial number electro-penciled onto the rear facing part of the bolt?


A very nice rifle, and probably the most professionally done and aesthetically pleasing of the various refurb programs. Definatly makes the Russian refurb program look like a gong show...
 
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Wow, this is excellent information. I bought it in an estate sale, and this guy had these guns for quite some time. He Died, and his wife wanted the guns gone. So now I have it.

It probally must have been in a crate for some 40 or so years, because it has a few recent safe kisses, but other then that, I had to remove the original factory cosmoline that was all over it.

Yes, at the back of the bolt, it is electro-penciled, 2 digits of the ser number onto the rear facing part of the bolt.
 
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Wow! Neat rifle. Also neat feedback. I love to read about the various rebuilds and handovers these old rifles have gone through. If they could only talk! (I guess they do actually "talk" though all the markings and features they contain). Thanks for posting the nice close-ups. Thanks to the people who answered. :p:p
 
Skippy said:
TO bring together most of what has been said here...

You've got an East German Volkspolezie K98k, a nazi manufacture rifle overhauled in East-Germany post-war for the Volkspolezie (peoples police), a sort of East German paramilitary police.

The crossed mosins "X" does indicate russian capture originally. Post war this rifle passed through russian hands and eventually into East Germany.

At that point the rifle was completely overhauled. You'll notice the NAZI eagle and swastika on the receiver are defaced, the numbers on the rifle would have been scrubbed and re-stamped to match the receiver if they didn't match in the first place (you'll notice that your bolt at least has been ground and re-stamped to match, and the floorplate has been restruck to match.)

The barrel also would have been replaceds, and I bet under the stock line you'll see a U over a crown, indicating post war, East-German manufacture. The "K13" and "K9" on the wrist of your stock indicate that it is post war, East-German as well.
The Czech-style front sight guard was also adopted by the East Germans.

Does your rifle have the last two digits of the serial number electro-penciled onto the rear facing part of the bolt?


A very nice rifle, and probably the most professionally done and aesthetically pleasing of the various refurb programs. Definatly makes the Russian refurb program look like a gong show...
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Holy Hannah! I have a rifle that is the same condition as the one post and everything you have said is identical to the condition of my rifle. I was thinking the ground bolt serial and forced matched parts were the work of bubba, but now I feel a lot better. It is indeed an excellent shooter too.
 
A lot of guys dismiss these rifles since they are russian capture and normally have a sinful amount of bug #### (read shellac) on them but when you stop and think of the history . . . built by nazi germany, carried into battle who knows where and eventually captured on some battlefield against the russians and then returned to service, east german police, in some cases such as this one I think it just beats a mitchells mauser hands down for the wow quality and when you shoot it your looking down the same sights someone else looked down in one of the greatest conflicts ever known . . . sorry Ill get off my history soapbox now . . . . nice rifle btw :)
 
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