Nea ar-15

outlawstags said:
I have an AT-15 from Alberta Tactical. Best gun for any amount of money anywhere. Also made in Canada and anyone who knows ATRS knows they have the best customer service in the industry!
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That is very true, I have experienced his customer services skills and exemplary doesn't seem to be a strong enough word.
 
I got the 14.5" in may. I did a "front sight" style training here and shot about 600rds in 2 days. ON the first day, we shot prone almost the hole time and sand got in the action. Gun worked like a dream and I din't bother cleaning it. On the second day it started raining and, well, we kept shooting. The gun work like a dream until I had to get down in a "urban prone" and got my gloves covered in mud. As you can see in the picture, the rifle got covered too. It still work fine until mud got in the action. It stopped ejecting. ( the casing was stuck in the bolt). To be honest. The condition I was shooting are very rare so don't take it as the rifle being cheap or ####ty. The instructor was impress with the amount or mud,grease, sand and oil in it.
I love my NEA and thinking of buying the 12" for the girlfriend.



 
I'm going to throw another good word out for the NEA-15. I have the 14.5" barrel...and it LOVES 55 grain norc ammo. I'm shooting an easy moa with it. I have thousands of rounds through mine at this point and it just keeps running.

Llywelyn
 
I really like "full sized" AR's. Seems to me like a tried and true solid stock and 20" barrel would alleviate many problems. No need to constantly compare X round to Y round for that miniscule increase in performance when you have a 20" barrel to get maximum fps. No need to constantly buy and try new stocks when you have a solid A2 stock that gives you pretty much the best check weld and positioning you can get. For my needs I feel link building off a base A2/A4 style full size AR15 would be best.


Hows Stag Arms? They have a 20" model that seems identical to an M16A2 other then the obvious no full auto differences. The M4Cabinenet chart seems to indicate that they follow the same quality standards as Colt.

Colt also has the MT6700 but it doesn't come with a A2 Govt profile barrel w/ flash hider but rather an overly heavy HBAR barrel. Although I don't think it's being made anymore and it's probably Un-ubtainium in Canada. It's also probably really hard to find an A2 style 20" barrel in Canada for it, which I would want.
 
mini15 said:
I really like "full sized" AR's. Seems to me like a tried and true solid stock and 20" barrel would alleviate many problems. No need to constantly compare X round to Y round for that miniscule increase in performance when you have a 20" barrel to get maximum fps. No need to constantly buy and try new stocks when you have a solid A2 stock that gives you pretty much the best check weld and positioning you can get. For my needs I feel link building off a base A2/A4 style full size AR15 would be best.


Hows Stag Arms? They have a 20" model that seems identical to an M16A2 other then the obvious no full auto differences. The M4Cabinenet chart seems to indicate that they follow the same quality standards as Colt.

Colt also has the MT6700 but it doesn't come with a A2 Govt profile barrel w/ flash hider but rather an overly heavy HBAR barrel. Although I don't think it's being made anymore and it's probably Un-ubtainium in Canada. It's also probably really hard to find an A2 style 20" barrel in Canada for it, which I would want.
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A standard 20" AR15 is on my list for someday as well. For an infantry rifle it's the right length.

Armalite also makes some 20" AR15 rifles. Stag makes good AR rifles. I have a 2T and 6R. Both are good.
 
The Stag 20 inch rifle is very tempting, somehow something always comes up when they're in stock though. Probably the easiest way to make a C7A2(ish) rifle without going bankrupt. The A2 fixed stock is too long for prone work.
 
enefgee said:
The Stag 20 inch rifle is very tempting, somehow something always comes up when they're in stock though. Probably the easiest way to make a C7A2(ish) rifle without going bankrupt. The A2 fixed stock is too long for prone work.
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I was thinking about starting with it and if it felt too long I could get an A1 furniture kit (are these available in Canada?). The Vietnam era furniture's stock is a bit shorter, plus when you wanted to retro your AR15 it would be cool.
 
enefgee said:
The Stag 20 inch rifle is very tempting, somehow something always comes up when they're in stock though. Probably the easiest way to make a C7A2(ish) rifle without going bankrupt. The A2 fixed stock is too long for prone work.
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How did the military do it all this time before using collapsible stocks?
 
misanthropist said:
Guessing "poorly"
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The U.S. Marines have even stated that one of the reasons why they don't want the M4 for regular units is because of the collapsible stock. They pride themselves in marksmanship and even with the best check support devices on modern collapsibles/folders NOTHING matches a tried and true solid stocks. Combat zones are a lot different then ranges too, a stock might be used as a paddle, an impact device to break windows, hit people, dig, etc... A fixed stock beats out even the notorious "UBR" IMO in terms of utility.
 
I dumped my sh!tty collapsible stock for a tried and true A2, and I love it. It actually feels like a rifle, as opposed to some crappy, wobbly, sliding, clicky, poorly balanced piece of sh!t.

Seriously. Best upgrade I made to my rifle. I shot better too. Who cares if it takes up 6" less in a bag? Seriously.
 
enefgee said:
The Stag 20 inch rifle is very tempting, somehow something always comes up when they're in stock though. Probably the easiest way to make a C7A2(ish) rifle without going bankrupt. The A2 fixed stock is too long for prone work.
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I'm sorry, but what??? Maybe if you have an old Elcan mounted. Otherwise, I get my face right up close to the receiver, with an A2 stock, and I'm only 5'10 (on a good day). It's perfect, and provided a huge improvement in my positional shooting.
 
SPRTN308 said:
Seriously. Best upgrade I made to my rifle. I shot better too. Who cares if it takes up 6" less in a bag? Seriously.
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That's another thing. Most AR15 carbines still have a buffer tube unless you have some exotic variant so it's not an actual "folding stock" that completely folds and there isn't anything left after the pistol grip. I feel like the space saving is negligible on a simple "collapsible" stock.
 
They are adjustable to allow for gear and clothing which may change seasonally, also, if you avoid commercial tubes, and cheap stocks you'll find you get zero wobble with adjustability. As far as beating people to death goes, firstly I don't do it, secondly if I had a choice between a rifle but and an E-tool, I'm going with the E-tool which adds the wound mechanism of cutting to the traditional bludgeon.
 
If you're out of ammo still having to kill people, any durability difference between a collapsible stock and a fixed one is going to be the least of your concerns.

Not that I think we've established that an A2 is more durable than a collapsible stock.

Besides which if you're so out of it that you think clubbing stuff with the stock is the most effective way to use a rifle as a striking weapon...

Man this discussion got stupid.



ETA the above is not aimed at you, nfg...hopefully that's obvious
 
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