Lets only hope they aren't restricted by then !
NEA BCL warranty
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Lets only hope they aren't restricted by then !
If the Feds change the classification, all BCL 102s will be effected. It won't matter which batch you bought from when it comes to shooting them. All of them would become "range queens" and woe betide the owner caught shooting in the woods. Let's all just hope that it doesn't come to that, although you can pretty much rest assured that the 102 is on the semi-Auto "hit list" for future reclassification.....
Why are we speculating stuff like this? On what basis?
Because the other poster raised the spectre of reclassification, is why. Is someone afraid of the Liberal boogeyman? Maybe if we don't talk about it, and squeeze our eyes shut really, really tight, they won't bother us......��
And maybe Canadian gun owners can Nut the heck up and stop living in fear. Enjoy what is available now and deal with any stupid the government may throw at us if or when it happens...
Runningfool
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And speculating about reclassification helps us how exactly?
When you say, "...rest assured that the 102 is on the semi-Auto "hit list" for future reclassification." it sure sounds like you are talking squarely out of your posterior. Or perhaps you can explain how you are so confident that the RCMP are targeting this rifle for future reclassification when they just provided the classification about 2 months ago????
And how precisely does such a discussion of hypothetical outcomes hurt us? What are you ostriches so frigging afraid of?
Just because the RCMP grudgingly passed a NR classification for the BCL 102 doesn't mean they can't or won't change their "profesional interpretation" of the facts as presented. If you think that I am "talking out of my posterior", then I would draw your attention to the CZ 858 and Swissarms PE90 reclassification fiascos. Your recent memory apparently leaves something to be desired.
Perhaps you missed out on the massive reclassifications that dramatically affected those of us over a certain age back in the late 1980s and early 90s? I lived through them as a responsible owner of Military style semi-auto rifles and watched as my personal property was deemed prohibited and devalued accordingly. Can you say the same, or are you just talking out of your apparently vociferous posterior?
It is no secret that the Liberal government would prefer to prohibit all semi-auto centrefire arms and advance their social engineering agenda as it pertains to tbe private ownership of firearms in Canada. The political reality is such that (in my view) this is unlikely to occur in one fell swoop. The Liberals ascribe to a more incremental approach akin to the frog in a slowly warming pot of water. We are the frog and the pot of water is a continuous tightening of firearms legislation regarding their private ownership and use. Anyone who honestly thinks that the restriction of all centrefire long-guns in Canada is not near the top of the Liberal "to do list" is quite simply delusional. They will do it if they calculate that they can get away with it in the wake of the Las Vegas tragedy, or the next, or the one after that. It is just a matter of time and you can bet your last dollar that the BCL 102 will be on the Restricted list, along with the SKS, Tavor, PE90, SG 540 & 542, Mini 14 & 30, XCR, SL8, etc, etc.
Too scary a prospect for you? No worries - just don't talk about the boogeyman and he'll leave you alone, right? Right?
Get real....
Just because the RCMP grudgingly passed a NR classification for the BCL 102 doesn't mean they can't or won't change their "profesional interpretation" of the facts as presented. If you think that I am "talking out of my posterior", then I would draw your attention to the CZ 858 and Swissarms PE90 reclassification fiascos. Your recent memory apparently leaves something to be desired.
Perhaps you missed out on the massive reclassifications that dramatically affected those of us over a certain age back in the late 1980s and early 90s? I lived through them as a responsible owner of Military style semi-auto rifles and watched as my personal property was deemed prohibited and devalued accordingly. Can you say the same, or are you just talking out of your apparently vociferous posterior?
It is no secret that the Liberal government would prefer to prohibit all semi-auto centrefire arms and advance their social engineering agenda as it pertains to tbe private ownership of firearms in Canada. The political reality is such that (in my view) this is unlikely to occur in one fell swoop. The Liberals ascribe to a more incremental approach akin to the frog in a slowly warming pot of water. We are the frog and the pot of water is a continuous tightening of firearms legislation regarding their private ownership and use. Anyone who honestly thinks that the restriction of all centrefire long-guns in Canada is not near the top of the Liberal "to do list" is quite simply delusional. They will do it if they calculate that they can get away with it in the wake of the Las Vegas tragedy, or the next, or the one after that. It is just a matter of time and you can bet your last dollar that the BCL 102 will be on the Restricted list, along with the SKS, Tavor, PE90, SG 540 & 542, Mini 14 & 30, XCR, SL8, etc, etc.
Too scary a prospect for you? No worries - just don't talk about the boogeyman and he'll leave you alone, right? Right?
Get real....
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Runningfool
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It hurts us because when you speculate that a recently classified NR rifle is in the RCMP's crosshairs, some people read that and think maybe you know something they don't and then maybe they don't buy that gun...or maybe they repeat what you posted at their lgs...or their club...and someone else decides not to buy that gun...
Funny that you are calling people ostriches when you sound like a chicken little.
EVERY gun is vulnerable to reclassification. We all know that. It is the Anti's end game. And of course we all know the RCMP giving the 102 NR status does not mean they can't or won't change their professional interpretation. But I will ask you again, what makes you think that the RCMP is itching to reclassify a firearm that they just classified 2 months ago? Have you got anything at all?
As I clearly stated above, it is a hypothetical discussion. What part of HYPOTHETICAL do you not understand?!? It is a discussion of the possible, perhaps even likely, nothing more. Quit trying to make it something that it is not, and then you won't be disappointed. "Chicken Little"? Yeah, whatever there ostrich-boy....��
Just what is "it" that I am supposed to have? A date and time for implementation of the Liberal end-game that even you admit to? Sorry, I'm not privy to that info.
Just what is "it" that I am supposed to have? A date and time for implementation of the Liberal end-game that even you admit to? Sorry, I'm not privy to that info.
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Can you guys take this in private? No relevant at all to this thread.
Exactly, take is somewhere else. Your bickering has no relevance to this thread.
This thread is about BCL warranty and issues mbrs here are experiencing with their rifles.
TurboTapin
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Here's to hoping that with the BCL acquisition, they start pumping out quality. I'm sure they're looking at this as a fresh start... hopefully they don't ruin another name.
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Well, second day out to the range with the BCL 102. This is the first time since I got it back from BCL. My first impressions are favorable. I believe the under gassing issues have been resolved. I fired about 250 rds of norinco 7.62. It cycled very well. But a few times the BCG locked back and engaged the bolt catch. Weird or what... I have never experienced this from any of my other rifles. that
However, I still find that I can feel the BCG moving back and forth. Just to confirm this and prove that I'm not really crazy, I brought my ArmaLite AR-10 out. When I fire the ArmaLite, the BCG cycles back and forth sharp and crisp. Like a real 308/7.62 should. the 102 on the other hand feels a little soft. But that might be just me. However I did notice that gauge really developing in the upper receiver from the cam pin.
Here are a couple of pictures of the BCL 102 after 375rds
In comparison the my ArmaLite AR-10 with over 1000 rds through it
I don't know, but I don't think this is fully up to snuff on the wear marks on the BCL.
too bad brownells is out of stock but of the ar308 pof roller cam pin.
When you insert a loaded mag, is it moving the bolt catch a little?
No, it's too bad BCL/NEA didn't build it right to begin with so new owners don't need to spend time and money getting their brand new rifle to run reliably.
I'm thinking every preorder stage will be a new generation of the 102 with the improvements and quality updates that the prior preorder didn't have...
I hope so but with NEA's track record I doubt it will change until after they catch up to demand and have a chance to do some more refinements. First thing they should do is ditch the match chamber and go to a standard AR-10 chamber so it will at least feed whatever ammo is in the magazine.
I find it funny and kinda scary at the same time that on their website they say Aerospace. I'm thinking that if they can't even copy an old design and add a few modern refinements (which is what the 102 is) I wouldn't want to be anywhere near anything they build that leaves the surface of the planet.
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BCL 102 warranty issues and QA/QC , just got it back.....
Well I just got my rifle back from BCL, they put a new upper receiver on it, test fired it, and guess what.... the BCG is gauging the upper receiver again. I doubt that they put hundreds of rounds through it to achieve this amount of wear. But there is defiantly something wrong here.
I know someone here will say to use a roller cam, but the gauges are there even before I had a chance to put one in.
I guess the old saying goes here. Buyer beware.
Well I just got my rifle back from BCL, they put a new upper receiver on it, test fired it, and guess what.... the BCG is gauging the upper receiver again. I doubt that they put hundreds of rounds through it to achieve this amount of wear. But there is defiantly something wrong here.
I know someone here will say to use a roller cam, but the gauges are there even before I had a chance to put one in.
I guess the old saying goes here. Buyer beware.
Well I just got my rifle back from BCL, they put a new upper receiver on it, test fired it, and guess what.... the BCG is gauging the upper receiver again. I doubt that they put hundreds of rounds through it to achieve this amount of wear. But there is defiantly something wrong here.
I know someone here will say to use a roller cam, but the gauges are there even before I had a chance to put one in.
I guess the old saying goes here. Buyer beware.
If you buy a roller cam pin do it because you want to upgrade your rifle not to hide a problem the rifle has. It shouldn't need a roller cam pin just so it doesn't eat itself (your Armalite doesn't need one). If it's still gouging something is out of spec and should be fixed not worked around. The guys installing a roller pin to hide this will probably find that their roller cam pin will fail early because it's impacting the same place yours is gouging.
I would contact BCL with your pictures and ask some questions about what exactly they did to address your problem. Either that or just shoot it till it grinds away enough material then replace the cam pin and hope it lasts.
