NEA carbines milspec or commercial?

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mg4201 said:
Dave, you are so utterly full of sh!t it is unreal. You are probably the least honest person on CGN. Whats even funnier is a guy who had a converstaion with himself posting as gunnybunny can accuse me of spouting BS. the reason you dislike my posts so much is that they are true. By all means though Please point out where I have lied about anything NEA ever did or built. Tick tock Dave.
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Hmmmm personal attacks, time to step in here....

How and why do these threads go south very quickly around the Black Rifle forum?

Can we get back on to the original topic of the thread, the buffer tube spec?

Cheers,
Barney
 
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Just for clarification - milspec as in dimensions, or milspec as in conforming to all the standards implicit in US milspec contracting?
 
tiriaq said:
Just for clarification - milspec as in dimensions, or milspec as in conforming to all the standards implicit in US milspec contracting?
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I think it's milspec in that it sounds cooler just to say "milspec"

AFAIK the only issue one may have as far as milspec vs. commercial dimensions is with the fitment of butt stocks meant to be mated with one or the other..
 
TRaTSeRiF said:
One of them will source at least some parts from NEA if it's SFRC that you're referring to
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Unless you know this 100% for sure that is a pretty crappy thing to say given NEA's reputation around here. I have no idea if this is true or not, but this kind of gossip (assuming it is gossip) can really impact a company's bottom line and Ryan and SFRC have been great for our community.
 
newshot said:
Unless you know this 100% for sure that is a pretty crappy thing to say given NEA's reputation around here. I have no idea if this is true or not, but this kind of gossip (assuming it is gossip) can really impact a company's bottom line and Ryan and SFRC have been great for our community.
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Ryan said so himself in the following thread (post#43). Seeing as Ryan hasn't been able to keep NEAs on the shelf for well over a year I think it is safe to say that "NEA's reputation" hasn't hurt Ryan's "bottom line" at all.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?845634-SFRC-AR15-s/page5
 
newshot said:
Unless you know this 100% for sure that is a pretty crappy thing to say given NEA's reputation around here. I have no idea if this is true or not, but this kind of gossip (assuming it is gossip) can really impact a company's bottom line and Ryan and SFRC have been great for our community.
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BBL's, and BCG's will be NEA, maybe more.

and as such i am no longer interested in this rifle either.
 
newshot said:
oh...well...different strokes for different folks I guess. I now stand corrected...but no longer in line for one of those ARs :)
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There goes the baby with the bathwater again! To each their own but let's say for argument's sake NEA only provides the muzzle brakes for Ryan's guns, you're saying you would be "no longer in line for one of those ARs"? If someone is genuinely interested in Ryan and SFRC's well being I would expect they at least give this new venture of theirs a chance and not write it off so summarily.
 
Runningfool said:
There goes the baby with the bathwater again! To each their own but let's say for argument's sake NEA only provides the muzzle brakes for Ryan's guns, you're saying you would be "no longer in line for one of those ARs"? If someone is genuinely interested in Ryan and SFRC's well being I would expect they at least give this new venture of theirs a chance and not write it off so summarily.
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I would have no issue with a NEA muzzle brake. It would get replaced with a battlecomp anyhow. I think that a Canadian brand should take great pride in their product and ensure that only the best goes out the door. There are too many consistently high quality, affordable options for me to bother with NEA. The Blackfeather stock on my m14 is everything a Canadian brand should be. Quality first, Canadian second. I sincerely hope and believe that SFRC will develope an AR as impeccable as their service and using reputable suppliers with proven track records.
 
Milspec, commercial, no matter. Just go out and shoot the damn thing. I have two, and both get equal treatment. :)
 
Runningfool said:
Ryan said so himself in the following thread (post#43). Seeing as Ryan hasn't been able to keep NEAs on the shelf for well over a year I think it is safe to say that "NEA's reputation" hasn't hurt Ryan's "bottom line" at all.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?845634-SFRC-AR15-s/page5
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It looks to me that NEA is limiting their AR's to Canada. Just look at what a their AR's are selling for in South Africa...$2400cad. Why sell in Canada when they can do better in other markets. It is all marketing smoke and mirrors in Canada "Must be a quality Rifle if it's always sold out".......................LOL
 
bjs7293 said:
It looks to me that NEA is limiting their AR's to Canada. Just look at what a their AR's are selling for in South Africa...$2400cad. Why sell in Canada when they can do better in other markets. It is all marketing smoke and mirrors in Canada "Must be a quality Rifle if it's always sold out".......................LOL
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Shipping, import duty, exchange rates, and IIRC each rifle has to be proofed in SA. Each stage has a cost or fee attached. The further away from the source, the more expensive it gets. Similarly, the costs here are around $1900NZ per rifle. I'd imagine that includes shipping costs/export fees, and 15% tax (levied on combined cost of item and shipping). Thank your lucky stars you are in North America and enjoy your cheap prices.
 
bjs7293 said:
It looks to me that NEA is limiting their AR's to Canada. Just look at what a their AR's are selling for in South Africa...$2400cad. Why sell in Canada when they can do better in other markets. It is all marketing smoke and mirrors in Canada "Must be a quality Rifle if it's always sold out".......................LOL
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So which is it? NEA not selling to Canadians because they make so much more selling them in SA or NEA not selling to Canadians to create an artificial shortage thereby duping us into thinking "must be a quality rifle if its always sold out"?

I'd have to think that what Scaggly said about duties, tariffs, shipping fees, etc. makes sense...when I buy a bottle of Italian wine and it costs me 3X what a local Italian can buy it for, I don't for a second think that the winery in Italy is raking in 3X the profit. In fact they are probably lucky to make the same margin since one could safely assume the importer would be buying in quantity.
 
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