NEA Issues *WARNING*

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For a company that has been making rifles for a little more than 3 years now, they sure have made a pile of mistakes. I still discuss them with shooters though - for those not on CGN, I tell them the good and the bad...for those on CGN, they know the bad already so they are usually quick to ask me about my experience with my 2 NEA rifles.

The guys I shoot with regularily, some have NEAs and some don't. Of the 6 guys I know personally who have purchased NEA-15s, one had a bolt that sheared a lug within 1000 rounds (it was during the period in 2012 when nea had sourced a batch of suspect bolts) and that is pretty much it as far as issues go. All six guys are happy with their purchases...that doesn't mean the next six guys will be but each year NEA gets better (not perfect by any stretch, but better).
 
You are correct but there is something else. I was at the range yesterday with few friends. Only 1 of them knew about CGN and doesn't use it much. Two of them which dont use CGN were considering NEA rifles. Well take a guess at what I responded to their consideration. My intention is not to bash or insult any companies but only to inform my fellow CGNers so they can inform others about the company in question. I hope this helped many of those who were actually considering those products. Kinda like BUYER BEWARE

The internet isn't a new thing and ignorance isn't really an excuse. With the cost of firearms being as high as they are you would thing a savvy consumer would do their research before putting out large sums of cash.

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The internet isn't a new thing and ignorance isn't really an excuse. With the cost of firearms being as high as they are you would thing a savvy consumer would do their research before putting out large sums of cash.

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FB and CGN is not internet for some people. They have jobs and families that they tend to. not everyone is as dedicated as we are to this website
 
The internet isn't a new thing and ignorance isn't really an excuse. With the cost of firearms being as high as they are you would thing a savvy consumer would do their research before putting out large sums of cash.

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History tells otherwise.
 
FB and CGN is not internet for some people. They have jobs and families that they tend to. not everyone is as dedicated as we are to this website

I don't use facebook and there's plenty of useful information outside of CGN for the firearm owner.

History tells otherwise.

I guess word of mouth and simply handling a firearm are enough to persuade people to buy it.

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The upper I got from NEA was poorly put together. The gas block pin going into the gas tube was not aligned properly, so the person kept hammering the roll pin in even though it didn't go all the way through. I guess the person kept hitting the pin till the end was crashed and flatten. If I didn't take it apart i would not have noticed.
 
The burst firing issue is more than likely caused by the fact that his gas block loosened up...it is slightly forward which would cause short striking, bursts and jams...especially in a 7.5" gun.

A loose gas block can not cause this. If NEA told you this, they're wrong.
What happens if the gas block walks forward? Less gas reaches the carrier, and it short strokes. What if it twists on the barrel, and mis-aligns the gas tube? The carrier key starts striking the gas tube, and will no longer chamber due to the obstructed path. None of these scenarios include the trigger bursting.

Pistol length gas systems can cause trigger issues due to carrier velocity i.e. How much force the carrier is smashing into the hammer with, and thus how hard the hammer hits the disconnector. Especially if the triggers are soft/of low quality like NEA's.

You could also get similar issues on out of spec lowers. FWIW, I trust Geiselle triggers, their tolerances are incredibly consistent, and EDM machined to boot.
 
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A loose gas block can not cause this. If NEA told you this, they're wrong.
What happens if the gas block walks forward? Less gas reaches the carrier, and it short strokes. What if it twists on the barrel, and mis-aligns the gas tube? The carrier key starts striking the gas tube, and will no longer chamber due to the obstructed path. None of these scenarios include the trigger bursting.

Pistol length gas systems can cause trigger issues due to carrier velocity i.e. How much force the carrier is smashing into the hammer with, and thus how hard the hammer hits the disconnector. Especially if the triggers are soft/of low quality like NEA's.

You could also get similar issues on out of spec lowers. FWIW, I trust Geiselle triggers, their tolerances are incredibly consistent, and EDM machined to boot.


What if there was just enough gas to eject the casing but not reset the hammer? Although rare, I have heard of bursting due to a misalignment of a gas block. Its mostly due to issues with the FCG though.
 
What if there was just enough gas to eject the casing but not reset the hammer? Although rare, I have heard of bursting due to a misalignment of a gas block. Its mostly due to issues with the FCG though.

That would be a case of hammer follow. The M16 carrier (as designed) should not allow the hammer to impact the pin with any force in such an instance.
 
What if there was just enough gas to eject the casing but not reset the hammer? Although rare, I have heard of bursting due to a misalignment of a gas block. Its mostly due to issues with the FCG though.

This is not possible. The trigger resets way before a casing can eject and a new cartridge can be chambered. Try it for yourself.
 
I had Deagles gun come back today and looked it over. The gas block wasn't loose or moved forward.

I think the burst firing was caused by the fact that the BCG didn't have the retaining pin in it. I assume it wasn't put back in after the replacement bolt was reinstalled by Deagle .

The muzzle device has signs of bullet strike marks on it, no idea why...got bent during or after install, machined wrong...no idea.

Ryan
 
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I had Deagles gun come back today and looked it over. The gas block wasn't loose or moved forward.

I think the burst firing was caused by the fact that the BCG didn't have the retaining pin in it. I assume it wasn't put back in after the replacement bolt was reinstalled by Deagle .

The muzzle device has signs of bullet strike marks on it, no idea why...got bent during or after install, machined wrong...no idea.

Ryan

His firing pin would fall out.
 
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